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Re: stuck dampener
[Re: 540challenger]
#969081
04/08/11 10:26 AM
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bboogieart
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Some of the nicer pullers come with a insert to put into the crank so this doesn't happened.
Yeah mine is a cheap one, but it had a button that goes on the end.
It was lost in the crank cuz I removed the washer, then didn't replace the bolt.  Ruined the crank but I still use the puller just need to remember to replace the nut after removing the big washer. We live we learn. 
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Re: stuck dampener
[Re: bboogieart]
#969082
04/08/11 10:40 AM
04/08/11 10:40 AM
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Some of the nicer pullers come with a insert to put into the crank so this doesn't happened.
Yeah mine is a cheap one, but it had a button that goes on the end.
It was lost in the crank cuz I removed the washer, then didn't replace the bolt. Ruined the crank but I still use the puller just need to remember to replace the nut after removing the big washer. We live we learn.
I got that topped. My friends dad who was a mechanic showed me how to remove a damper with the proper tool. So after using the PRY BAR i learned fast how not to pull a damper  
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Re: stuck dampener
[Re: 70Cuda383]
#969083
04/08/11 10:46 AM
04/08/11 10:46 AM
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Cincinnati, Ohio
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I just used mine this morning to remove a flywheel from a 12 HP Briggs on a old riding mower. It's one of the first tools I ever bought for working on motors, I'm on my 3rd one. I ruined one trying to pull a welded on hub off a racing hemi. Got one at home and at work. 
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Re: stuck dampener
[Re: JohnRR]
#969088
04/08/11 11:56 AM
04/08/11 11:56 AM
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Seen a fluid dampener or two that were a bear to remove. All others come right off with decent puller. 
Good point a fair amount of aftermarket dampers can bee too tight or too losse depending on the brand. To tight is not a bad as you cam hone it slighty to get a better fit.
All the aftermarket Dampners I have purcahsed come wit ha sheet telling the end user that the dampner must be honed to size , this is why they are hard to install.
I guess because a damper must be firmly installed on the crank to absorb vibration.
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Re: stuck dampener
[Re: 70Cuda383]
#969089
04/08/11 11:58 AM
04/08/11 11:58 AM
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Um... Just buy the tool... The good puller/installer is $100. You're hammering directly on the crank. You might as well be throwing the hammer from the slide hammer at the crank... It's not hard to bend the crank doing that. Especially a cast crank...
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: stuck dampener
[Re: Challenger 1]
#969090
04/08/11 12:03 PM
04/08/11 12:03 PM
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BETTER for the dampner to be a little tight ...than loose for the dampner to be effective. B U T ... as tight as some of these are(as some are describing it) .....  How the HELL did they get the dampner ON the crank in the first place ? ...... ...WITH a BFH ??
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Re: stuck dampener
[Re: 70Cuda383]
#969095
04/08/11 03:32 PM
04/08/11 03:32 PM
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Irving, TX
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One thing to remember: any impact on the damper is transferred directly to the crank and thrust bearing.
If it's an engine you don't plan on rebuilding, don't hammer on (or off) the balancer.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind.
- Stu Harmon
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Re: stuck dampener
[Re: IcorkSOAK]
#969097
04/08/11 03:57 PM
04/08/11 03:57 PM
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To the guys that have had to honed-to-fit these things ....what have you used to do-so ?
A small engine hone...
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Re: stuck dampener
[Re: Roger 68 Charger]
#969099
04/08/11 04:12 PM
04/08/11 04:12 PM
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A gulag near you.
JohnRR
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I just finished putting my dampener on (PRW) Man what a pain--I heated it up in water and used anti seize--but it went on hard all the way. The instructions didnt say anything about honeing and I didnt think of it
Man that thing is going to be a pain in the ass to get off 
Maybe it was written in a language you couldn't read ... like CHINESE ...
If you have an aftermarket crank you can't count on them being in spec eiter definitley should have done some measuring.
I would have stopped and not went all the way on with it if it was fighting all the way on.
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Re: stuck dampener
[Re: Challenger 1]
#969100
04/08/11 04:12 PM
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A gulag near you.
JohnRR
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To the guys that have had to honed-to-fit these things ....what have you used to do-so ?
A small engine hone...
I had it done at the machine shop , he measured it and did it in the rod hone .
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Maybe a smear of anti-seize next time? 
