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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: Irun5snd8th] #968155
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shoot. these things have been in the 9 second range in heavy 4300 plus pound car in brackets for years.

good parts made by good companies, assembled by competant builders and you should be fine.

ive had no issues with heads other than a occasional (2 in 5 years) valve springs.

ive heard of blocks splitting in the 1100 hp range..these are wheel numbers also. so in a na application you should be fine.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: hemidup] #968156
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yep. were about to build two 5.7 based hemis for a duster and a roadrunner here. road runner is going to use the sb 4 speed setup and the duster a keilser 5 speed.

mancini and mopar have the parts to hook it up to the sb trans

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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: gremlinsteve] #968157
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Steve, that is so impressive. amazing. You guys working on these things are the new generation of Hemi guru's. Very nice..

Steve , how have you been??




Steve ground me an itty bitty camshaft for my 392 stroked and blown Hemi. Naysayer's have always told me it was too small and I could go faster with a different grind. My E.T's have always proved them wrong.

Thanks again Steve.




you know i have neen game for some time now jerry. if you can tune it ill give you what you need....

steve




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYQdFxIx7AA


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: hemidup] #968158
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Steve, that is so impressive. amazing. You guys working on these things are the new generation of Hemi guru's. Very nice..

Steve , how have you been??




Steve ground me an itty bitty camshaft for my 392 stroked and blown Hemi. Naysayer's have always told me it was too small and I could go faster with a different grind. My E.T's have always proved them wrong.

Thanks again Steve.




you know i have neen game for some time now jerry. if you can tune it ill give you what you need....

steve




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYQdFxIx7AA





the lil cam that could....


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: Irun5snd8th] #968159
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Seems like the dragpak intake would be the only way to go for my kind of combo.




In my book, It's the only way to fly!! But, get ready to shell out a $1000 for it. Then. finding one is the next hurdle. Indy was the only place I could find that had one, when I was looking. The Intakes don't seem to make it to warehouse stock.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are making. [Re: sixpackgut] #968160
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Rick, my motor is a 04, that had the crossover wires. can i convert to those coils you make and run those wires with the hemi msd box? that indy motor is downright sexy




I can't answer that question. Maybe some of the guys here can. Might be the computers are different. Sorry.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are making. [Re: sunroofgtx] #968161
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yes. you can convert over to the newer style coil packs. or i should say srt8 style.

you will need valve covers, coils and the pig tails

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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: nhramark] #968162
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nhramark, i sent you a pm, did you get it?




Got it and just sent you a reply.

Dragula, give my partner Bob a call at 314-435-3461. He does the design work and would love to be involved with something like that.




I have been talking to Bob on the phone and he would like to know if the cam censor location is the same on all the different year and different engines.

he is comming up with a program to cnc the bosses off the top of the timing cover to look nice with motor plate setup. he can get the 03-04 truck covers at a really decent price and wants to know if that cover can be used on all engines


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: sixpackgut] #968163
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that cover can be swapped between all engines except for a 2009 and newer 5.7 "eagle" motor. the install heights on the valve springs dictate a differant valve cover.

your going to be limited to the truck coil pack design unless you use a seperate coil pack like the firecore stuff or a modified 6.1 style mounted differantly.

cam position sensors remain in the same location yes, i think the 09 eagle motors began to use a differant plug. maybe it was the 08 motors.

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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: sixpackgut] #968164
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nhramark, i sent you a pm, did you get it?




Got it and just sent you a reply.

Dragula, give my partner Bob a call at 314-435-3461. He does the design work and would love to be involved with something like that.




I have been talking to Bob on the phone and he would like to know if the cam censor location is the same on all the different year and different engines.

he is comming up with a program to cnc the bosses off the top of the timing cover to look nice with motor plate setup. he can get the 03-04 truck covers at a really decent price and wants to know if that cover can be used on all engines




The truck cover will fit all 08 and older 5.7's and all current 6.1's.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: hemidup] #968165
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09 and up 5.7 eagle motors changed block design.
in other words if its a vvt motor is uses specific covers for that motor...to include the timing cover.

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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: gremlinsteve] #968166
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that cover can be swapped between all engines except for a 2009 and newer 5.7 "eagle" motor. the install heights on the valve springs dictate a differant valve cover.

your going to be limited to the truck coil pack design unless you use a seperate coil pack like the firecore stuff or a modified 6.1 style mounted differantly.

cam position sensors remain in the same location yes, i think the 09 eagle motors began to use a differant plug. maybe it was the 08 motors.

steve




09 Eagle heads use a plug with a flat washer. Older heads use a tapered plug.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: hemidup] #968167
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I'll post this for my buddy at The CrankShop. Blower intakes for 5.7 and 6.1. He is also doing new valve covers with the liter number instead of cubic inches.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: TrWaters] #968168
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I'll post this for my buddy at The CrankShop. Blower intakes for 5.7 and 6.1. He is also doing new valve covers with the liter number instead of cubic inches.




Sweet! Looks like a Whipple could bolt right up to that blower intake. We're currently working on a 392 Gen III Hemi build with a 4L Whipple and A/W intercooler. Mocked it up today and the top of the blower is 15" above the top edge of the valve cover.

Edit: I also see coil pack mounting pedistals casted in the bottom of the intake. Nice.

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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: hemidup] #968169
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interesting pieces.

i spy the oil pan in the back ground..give up the skinny on it...


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: gremlinsteve] #968170
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Question for the guys building these big inch high HP engines...what blocks are you starting with? 5.7 or 6.1? Any particular year?

Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: Devilbrad] #968171
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depends on the person. a 6.1 starts with the 4.055 bore. a 5.7 is what? 3.917

just depends on what your after. 6.1 blocks and parts have been alot higher than the 5.7 counterpart.

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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: gremlinsteve] #968172
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Steve,
Just another "one off" made from a Jeep pan. I had Larry at the CrankShop TIG it up for me. No idea what it holds for oil. It can be yours CHEAP.


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I'll post this for my buddy at The CrankShop. Blower intakes for 5.7 and 6.1. He is also doing new valve covers with the liter number instead of cubic inches.




What about the timing gear cover?

Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: gremlinsteve] #968174
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well. these motors are cool indeed.
a buddy of mine running a set of eagle heads i sent him along with a mild for you guys 219/223 @.050 cam on e85 just pulled a 11.68 at 119.3 mph in a 4000 race weight charger.

running a 1.73 60 foot time btw. car normally runns low 1.6 short times and the D.A. is in th e5-600 range i think for them right now.

so if there are any doubters, these things can run...


pm me waters. on what that pan fits and what you want for it.

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