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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: sunroofgtx] #968135
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5.7 intake risers. I dont do much of any of this stuff anymore. There is no call for it. My early hemi parts outsell them 100:1.
And just a small correction. The original "Indy" style valve covers were actually "CrankShop" valve covers.




I remember. I was confused about that until They called and ordered some sets and explained it. Nice people. How are you , TR?

Live feed!! Awesome. Lets make it a Moparts live feed !! Can't wait to see a possible 1000 Horse Hemi screaming ! Thank you.. Are you recording EGT and O2? Thanks, Rick Gorski




All 8 cylinders are hooked up to EGT probes with 02's in the collector's. At the last dyno session with this same engine, she ran out of injector at 5500 rpm. Still made 936 hp/898 ft lbs, tq. The 120 lb injector's will be here next Monday.

BTW, Our last pull with this engine blew the discharge tube off the front and dang near took out the window between the dyno room and control room. Luckily it happened at the dyno instead of at the track where it could have easily taken out the radiator. Charge tube restraints have already been installed. Here's a mock up pic of the beast. I'll post up pic's of the finished product tomorrow.

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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: gremlinsteve] #968136
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the one today made 700 ft lbs of torque at 2000 rpm...on 426 inches btw

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I would like to know more about this combo? I am very seriously considering a new hemi in my Challenger.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: sunroofgtx] #968137
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Steve, that is so impressive. amazing. You guys working on these things are the new generation of Hemi guru's. Very nice..

Steve , how have you been??




Steve ground me an itty bitty camshaft for my 392 stroked and blown Hemi. Naysayer's have always told me it was too small and I could go faster with a different grind. My E.T's have always proved them wrong.

Thanks again Steve.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: Irun5snd8th] #968138
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the one today made 700 ft lbs of torque at 2000 rpm...on 426 inches btw

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I would like to know more about this combo? I am very seriously considering a new hemi in my Challenger.




Your the guy running 9's with a small block? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I loved watchin your car in action. The Gen III Hemi weighs about 60 lbs less than an aluminum headed 5.9 SB.


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the one today made 700 ft lbs of torque at 2000 rpm...on 426 inches btw

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I would like to know more about this combo? I am very seriously considering a new hemi in my Challenger.




Your the guy running 9's with a small block? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I loved watchin your car in action. The Gen III Hemi weighs about 60 lbs less than an aluminum headed 5.9 SB.



That would be me. Not real far in the 9's but with a set of Eddies it does OK. If that is 60lbs less than a 5.9 its gotta be a ton less than my original R block. That thing is a pig. If these things are that light, I am even more intrigued.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: Irun5snd8th] #968140
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the one today made 700 ft lbs of torque at 2000 rpm...on 426 inches btw

steve-o



I would like to know more about this combo? I am very seriously considering a new hemi in my Challenger.




Your the guy running 9's with a small block? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I loved watchin your car in action. The Gen III Hemi weighs about 60 lbs less than an aluminum headed 5.9 SB.



That would be me. Not real far in the 9's but with a set of Eddies it does OK. If that is 60lbs less than a 5.9 its gotta be a ton less than my original R block. That thing is a pig. If these things are that light, I am even more intrigued.




New Hemi engine's weigh in at 460 lbs, less alternator, PS pump and fluid's. Also depends whether your weighing an aluminum intake vs a composite intake. With the new Gen III aluminum block you can take another 90 lbs off that.

BTW, Love your car...I've always been a small block guy at heart.


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Seems like the dragpak intake would be the only way to go for my kind of combo.


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Re: Gen 3 Hemi's are the new cool. What members are mak [Re: hemidup] #968142
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yep it made 700 at 2k rpm at the wheels. adding in the drivetrain loos of 18 percent..you get the picture.

it should be a fun car to ride in. the dyno runs were made on 93 octane also.


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Steve, that is so impressive. amazing. You guys working on these things are the new generation of Hemi guru's. Very nice..

Steve , how have you been??





been doing ok...ive slowed down alot in my endeavors of course..since i work one full time job its tough enough just to get through that let alone two..but still manage doing this 3g hemi stuff on occasion.


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Steve, that is so impressive. amazing. You guys working on these things are the new generation of Hemi guru's. Very nice..

Steve , how have you been??




Steve ground me an itty bitty camshaft for my 392 stroked and blown Hemi. Naysayer's have always told me it was too small and I could go faster with a different grind. My E.T's have always proved them wrong.

Thanks again Steve.




you know i have neen game for some time now jerry. if you can tune it ill give you what you need....

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the one today made 700 ft lbs of torque at 2000 rpm...on 426 inches btw

steve-o



I would like to know more about this combo? I am very seriously considering a new hemi in my Challenger.




Your the guy running 9's with a small block? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I loved watchin your car in action. The Gen III Hemi weighs about 60 lbs less than an aluminum headed 5.9 SB.



That would be me. Not real far in the 9's but with a set of Eddies it does OK. If that is 60lbs less than a 5.9 its gotta be a ton less than my original R block. That thing is a pig. If these things are that light, I am even more intrigued.




New Hemi engine's weigh in at 460 lbs, less alternator, PS pump and fluid's. Also depends whether your weighing an aluminum intake vs a composite intake. With the new Gen III aluminum block you can take another 90 lbs off that.

BTW, Love your car...I've always been a small block guy at heart.



Oops. I forgot to thank you for the compliment.


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and these 3g motors love e85...


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Seems like the dragpak intake would be the only way to go for my kind of combo.




Plus a 5800 stall converter and 4.88's.


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Steve, that is so impressive. amazing. You guys working on these things are the new generation of Hemi guru's. Very nice..

Steve , how have you been??




Steve ground me an itty bitty camshaft for my 392 stroked and blown Hemi. Naysayer's have always told me it was too small and I could go faster with a different grind. My E.T's have always proved them wrong.

Thanks again Steve.




you know i have neen game for some time now jerry. if you can tune it ill give you what you need....

steve




Changed it out for a 219/225, 114 lsa + 4


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any times yet?

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Obviously this 2000 rpm deal is not naturally aspirated. I am still very intrigued with the prospect of dropping one of these in my Challenger. Headers will be a sinch with Bobs front end on the car too. Whats it take to hook one up to a 904 or 727?


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any times yet?

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Nope. Snow is still present here and tracks won't open for a few more weeks. My short block should be ready to assemble next week. I'm still waiting for my custom Ferrea iconal exhaust valves to show up. They should be here in the next few day's.


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Obviously this 2000 rpm deal is not naturally aspirated. I am still very intrigued with the prospect of dropping one of these in my Challenger. Headers will be a sinch with Bobs front end on the car too. Whats it take to hook one up to a 904 or 727?




did like 14 pounds at peak boost of course. but very very streetable.

ill dig up some decent dyno graphs if you like on na apps. plus we got some new stuff in the works also so it will be a bit more updated. mostly na

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Would love to see it. I think there is a market for all of this stuff if you can prove to the racers that these things can be competitively campaigned in a real Mopar doorcar such as mine. 300 passes a year, 9 second ET's, double entering and in a reasonably priced package. Heck, who wouldnt want to buy one if thats the case?


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Obviously this 2000 rpm deal is not naturally aspirated. I am still very intrigued with the prospect of dropping one of these in my Challenger. Headers will be a sinch with Bobs front end on the car too. Whats it take to hook one up to a 904 or 727?




Piece of cake. Manccini/MP has all that you need.


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