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Re: B/E&A seat belt sets
[Re: cataclysm80]
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07/30/08 07:58 AM
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The belts are made for 95% of the market that wants quality and the ability to show their car and look like they have restored original belts. If some knuckle head has the nerve and reaches through your window and flips over your belt to see if all the markings are on the back side of the buckles then stick your size 12 up his behind. Well said!  I'll be buying a set for my 69 RR soon.
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Re: B/E&A seat belt sets
[Re: HEMICUDA]
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07/30/08 09:58 AM
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If anyone has any question plz call me, I’m always ready to talk Mopar. Respectfully, Michael C. Ross – Owner B/E & A Restoration Parts, Inc. www.beaparts.com330-725-3990
Mike,
any chance you can post more pictures of the 68-9 belt set compared to the original ends? Not too many shots on the web page. I know you said you were going to post more at some point.
Thanks,
Ed B
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69 A12 road runner ,Q5, post coupe, 4 speed, former Drag car restored to "Driver" condition in the early 90's, Showing some Patina. SS/E Track Record Holder 1980 10.40 @ 130mph
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Re: B/E&A seat belt sets
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07/30/08 02:26 PM
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I'm happy to be part of the 95% group.  I have a question, do the BEA sets include the rear and shoulder belts or just the fronts? As said, the picture and description doesn't say much.
I can't afford this.
mark
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Re: B/E&A seat belt sets
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07/30/08 07:00 PM
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Form what I've seen or purchased thier interior soft pieces are close but not 100%. 
please explain..... 
I and friends have purchased headrests for bucket seat B-Bodies. What they ended up with was many back and forth with headrests from BE&A until they both got a pair they could live with. Each time for both guy's the return shipping was on them. I had my Buddy pick my set up at Carlisle so they could look them over. What all of us ended up with are 75- 85% correct pieces. The shafts aren't curved where they enter the headrest and the bottom of the headrest is smooth not recessed for the gasket to fit in. Also for some reason they are color keying the bottom gasket not putting black one's on as original. Am I happy to have them? Yes, but since my car is a convertible they are "in your face" so to speak. I will buy the seatbelts once I'm satisfied the 69's look correct and them buy the labels from ECS and have them sewn in. Hope this helps...
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Re: B/E&A seat belt sets
[Re: RJS]
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07/31/08 05:57 PM
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Mike explained to me there were licensing issues that would not allow them to stamp the correct # in the latch. Also, they were not allowed to add the part number/date code tags (but these can be purchased from ECS). I bought a set of the 71 belts and they look great!
addict:to devote or surrender (oneself) to something habitually or obsessively ....hmmmm
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Re: B/E&A seat belt sets
[Re: RJS]
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07/31/08 09:19 PM
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So what happened to this post and why all the deletes from Mike Ross??? 
I pointed something out again
Mike
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Re: B/E&A seat belt sets
[Re: 1MYTGTX]
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07/31/08 10:20 PM
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For the life of me I can't understand why anyone would bad mouth any of the new repo stuff. I have talked to BE&A, I have checked all there advertising, there web site, so on. I can't find anywhere where it says " Exact reproduction seat belts" If you need exact, then go elsewhere and get it. If you need or want the stuff BE&A sells, call them and order it. THE END! I for one with allot of other people am still amazed at what has happened in the last few years. ( Think About It) New Fenders, Quarters, floors, trunks,roofs,hoods and of coarse all the stuff PG classics, BE&A, Tonys parts and others have brought out. (Two door rear wheel drive stick cars we all cried for.) I applaud all of you  and others that have invested your time and money to bring out these much needed parts. There is still the market for the polised spit shined original stuff, but there is a market for this stuff also. Why can't some people just leave it the way it is and just let us ALL in joy are cars. Quit being so #%&*@ negative!!  It worries me sometimes that a few idiots will somehow discurage some of these companys and we will be back to the way it was 5-10 years ago with nothing. Maybe one of you negative, bad mouthing companys or people, could pony up some cash and help get the stuff made to your expectations instead of blabing about it all the time. 
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Re: B/E&A seat belt sets
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07/31/08 10:32 PM
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So what happened to this post and why all the deletes from Mike Ross???
I pointed something out again
Mike
What, the fact that you are a complete Jerk with horrible customer relations.
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Re: B/E&A seat belt sets
[Re: m46rat]
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08/01/08 11:13 AM
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Mike: Do you use the same BUCKLES(not chrome ends as your now deleted post talked about) for both 69 and 70 belts? Can you address the reason for the differences between the P-535 chrome ends and the ASE chrome end(that blues cuda posted a pic of), why the difference?? Do all the colors of belts that you offer accurately duplicate(NOT exactly, just close) the ones that were available from Chrysler Corp. during the 69-71 time period? I really don't think this stuff is Rocket Science, but I am assuming that you had researched these belts thoroughly before going ahead and reproducing them, after all you stated that they are 95% accuarate(despite overlooking the chrome ends for all this time). Thanks for your help.
Dwight
Again, who gives a crap about the difference between the p-535 and the ASE chrome ends.  I'm sure some people do and rightfully so. So those people would not buy these belts. I would buy a set of these belts for all my cars I currently own. If I had a real rare hemi car or something else, I would not. But I wouldn't question why someone made a part that didn't work for my application.
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Re: B/E&A seat belt sets *DELETED*
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08/01/08 12:18 PM
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This is a reoccurring theme that happens over and over in this hobby. Someone tries to make a product that is needed and the controversy starts. I would like to ask those that are down to this “nth degree” of a detail regarding the seat belt tips a few questions. Is every other part of your car correctly date coded? Are the paint finishes exactly like the factory did them? What about correct date coded tires? Were the factory suspensions parts used in the restoration? How about those areas that can’t be seen? Did you do them correctly or skip over them because they can’t be seen? The point I am trying to make here has to do with discriminating attitudes of those who seem to be “detail” conscious in one area but blatantly accept or over look LARGER areas of concern. I had a guy call me last week and was up in arms over battery decal date stampings (Mustang customer) but proceeded to brag about the exhausting efforts he used to powder coat all of his suspension parts!!?!!?!! A three eights inch stamping bothered him but incorrect powder coating all over the vehicle was acceptable! I would imagine that seatbelt buckles tips might be the last thing that some individuals need to worry about. Mike Ross is a class guy who is just as committed and dedicated as anyone I know in this hobby. Does anyone posting here know the cost involved to manufacture every single variation of seatbelt tip that might exist? Let this new product line take hold and you might see another variation make it to production sometime in the future. These belts tips ARE representative of one type of original version. You can’t be in every corner of a room at the same time. When you concentrate on the “North” corner, people in the “East, West and South“ corners will complain. You move to the “South" corner and you immediately exchange your group of critics. I would like to thank Mike Ross for the sacrifice and investment he has made to manufacture and provide this product line. He has made the Mopar Hobby a better place because of his dedicated efforts!
Ditto's! Excellent Points and post.
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