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Re: What to use to clean this up?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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02/25/11 11:14 AM
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These little wheels from 3M are real handy for cleaning up the deck surface and the top of the piston. Use a drill or die grinder. Auto parts store that sells 3m will have them.
I would not use anything like these. They break down and the fibers get everywhere and end up clogging your pick-up. Unless you plan on taking it down to the block and having it tanked I'd probably just soak it down w/ carb cleaner then scrape w/ a gasket remover then hit it w/ brake clean and be done.
Whatever, being a short block it's real easy to cover the lifter valley up.
Man you guys are so backward, if you want to spend hours instead of minutes, knock yourself out.
Wonder why some of us get more done than others?
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Re: What to use to clean this up?
[Re: Challenger 1]
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02/25/11 11:43 AM
02/25/11 11:43 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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These little wheels from 3M are real handy for cleaning up the deck surface and the top of the piston. Use a drill or die grinder. Auto parts store that sells 3m will have them.
I would not use anything like these. They break down and the fibers get everywhere and end up clogging your pick-up. Unless you plan on taking it down to the block and having it tanked I'd probably just soak it down w/ carb cleaner then scrape w/ a gasket remover then hit it w/ brake clean and be done.
Whatever, being a short block it's real easy to cover the lifter valley up.
Man you guys are so backward, if you want to spend hours instead of minutes, knock yourself out.
Wonder why some of us get more done than others?
ok I thought the same as you...blocked every up cleaned the head surface (on the block and heads) Cleaned the head w/ brake clean and with a good blast of air. After the valve dropped thru the piston I tore the engine down, all those fibers were all up in my pick-up. At 1st I thought it was junk from the valve then I felt it. Trust me I was very careful. I used to use the green pads before somebody told me those were a no-go. Never had any issues w/ them.
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Re: What to use to clean this up?
[Re: Challenger 1]
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02/25/11 12:23 PM
02/25/11 12:23 PM
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These little wheels from 3M are real handy for cleaning up the deck surface and the top of the piston. Use a drill or die grinder. Auto parts store that sells 3m will have them.
I would not use anything like these. They break down and the fibers get everywhere and end up clogging your pick-up. Unless you plan on taking it down to the block and having it tanked I'd probably just soak it down w/ carb cleaner then scrape w/ a gasket remover then hit it w/ brake clean and be done.
Whatever, being a short block it's real easy to cover the lifter valley up.
Man you guys are so backward, if you want to spend hours instead of minutes, knock yourself out.
Wonder why some of us get more done than others?
MANY OEM's have published TSB's against the use of these. Seems they contain abrasive compounds(aluminum oxide I think was mentioned)which is small enough to go right through oil filter media. I have also seen guys REALLY hack up surfaces if they are not careful.Saw 1 guy nick a valve on a cyl head bad enough to require replacement!
With all that said, I still use them, just be VERY careful and clean,clean,clean when you are done. The plastic bristle type are MUCH more forgiving but I've been told they still contain the abrasive? Just my  good luck with the project! 
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Re: What to use to clean this up?
[Re: Dcuda69]
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02/25/11 01:07 PM
02/25/11 01:07 PM
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I'm with Gary on this one. It's about how much detail and time you take in keeping it clean. The only factory TSB I remember was on the Northstar engine. The factory blamed poor service procedures for failures of a poor design. They claimed the oil pumps were failing because of debris left behind by those pads. Funny that none of the failed Northstar oil pumps I have run across ever had one of those pads applied to the engine but they still failed. 
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Re: What to use to clean this up?
[Re: 440PURSUIT]
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02/25/11 01:45 PM
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Rolock Pads are a Bozo NoNo! They leave metal debris that can wipe your bearings and damage rings. Production mechanics use them to get the job down the road and never see it again. Play it safe and scrape the surfaces!
I agree plus they REMOVE material, you want to SCREW that deck surface up use those pads.
This case a fresh razor blade , brake wash , a rag and PATIENCE .
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Re: What to use to clean this up?
[Re: johnedod]
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02/25/11 09:29 PM
02/25/11 09:29 PM
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Use these plastic gasket removers on your die grinder.
They come in 2" and larger diameter sizes.
Green ones are usually for metal surfaces, and yellow ones for aluminum surfaces.
They work well, and don't dig into the metal as the abrasive discs tend to do.
Last edited by hemi71x; 02/25/11 09:34 PM.
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Re: What to use to clean this up?
[Re: hemi71x]
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02/26/11 01:36 PM
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Use these plastic gasket removers on your die grinder.
They come in 2" and larger diameter sizes.
Green ones are usually for metal surfaces, and yellow ones for aluminum surfaces.
They work well, and don't dig into the metal as the abrasive discs tend to do.
That's it! That's the one I was talking about with the plastic nibs. 
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I like that one! 
