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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: MattW] #934437
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Who has the OEM Part # for the 6.1 crankshaft?
I don't want the Mopar Performance #. Matt

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: MattW] #934438
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05037458BD

is the latest and greatest one I think.

My opinion if you want a forged one, get one off ebay. They can be found dirt cheap!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6-1-HEMI-...sQ5fAccessories


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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: wldtm] #934439
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05037458BD

is the latest and greatest one I think.

My opinion if you want a forged one, get one off ebay. They can be found dirt cheap!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6-1-HEMI-...sQ5fAccessories



Thank you sir.

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: MattW] #934440
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did any one flow these new heads thanks

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: all spooled up] #934441
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: all spooled up] #934442
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did any one flow these new heads thanks



Just got my set flowed 5.7 stock head
intake ............. exhaust
.100 72.2 ............ 56.6
.200 150.4 ............ 112.4
.300 217.3 ............ 148.9
.400 272.5 ............ 176.3
.500 299.2 ............ 183.6
.600 302 ............ 185

not bad for a STOCK HEAD. Matt

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: MattW] #934443
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not bad? are you kidding..thats phenominal..
272 @ .400" I lift
get them to CC the port runners while your at it.
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #934444
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not bad? are you kidding..thats phenominal..
272 @ .400" I lift
get them to CC the port runners while your at it.
cheapst



That with a 4" bore. Superflow 1020. I will try to CC the intake port tomorrow.

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: topbrent] #934445
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Few questions for the Gen III experts. Sorry if these are rudimentary and covered elsewhere...:

- How much lift can the stock rockers handle?

- How much spring can the stock rockers handle?

- At what point do the stock rockers become unsuitable, a liability, and/or unstable?

- Can you sufficiently cam the engine to use the higher lift flow that is available and still use the stock rockers?

- Can the stock rockers handle .600+ lift?






- Stock rocker's are safe to .585" lift.

- I'd be more concerned about spring rate. Manley or PSI are my favorite 2 of valve spring choices.

- Spun the stock rocker's up to 8400 rpm. The main concern is harmonic's and premature wear to the rockershaft's.

- ??? Probably not.

-No, unless you buy custom valve springs.


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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #934446
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so $499 for the heads and $3000 for rockers
that dollar cost averages to $3499 for a 700+hp set of heads...?
whats the dilema?
cheapst




The $3000 Jessel rocker's + additional machining work? Don't bother unless you only want to spin the motor to 6500 rpm. The way the Jessel system works uses a hole drilled into the side of the lifter to pump them up from the lifter oil galley. Very old school and very lucky the lifters made it to 6500 rpm. Whereas with the stock top oil system, the oil is deadheaded at the lifter which darn near makes it a solid lifter which is good for 8000 rpm +.


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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: hemidup] #934447
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hi jerry!!!


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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: gremlinsteve] #934448
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hi jerry!!!




Hi Steve I'd really like to buy all those crankshafts.


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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: MattW] #934449
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did any one flow these new heads thanks



Just got my set flowed 5.7 stock head
intake ............. exhaust
.100 72.2 ............ 56.6
.200 150.4 ............ 112.4
.300 217.3 ............ 148.9
.400 272.5 ............ 176.3
.500 299.2 ............ 183.6
.600 302 ............ 185

not bad for a STOCK HEAD. Matt


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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: justinp61] #934450
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Does anyone know of an actual build, 5.7, 6.1 stroker with actual dyno numbers? A list of parts? What will work together? Cams and valve train parts? These engins are capeable of a ton of power, but a guy could spend a lot of money and have a bunch os mismatched parts. I'd like to build one, a stroker, carbureted on pump gas that would make 650-700 hp. It may not be possible though .




It's possible, I saw a naturally aspirated 4100 lb. Charger streeter on slicks last week that has gone 10.70's in the 1/4.

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: LSP] #934451
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dyno numbers...there are tons of the cars running those combinations and running very well.

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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: gremlinsteve] #934452
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I forget what he told me on dyno #'s, I remember it was RWHP, Chris at ShopHemi can tell you all about it.

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: LSP] #934453
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I've got Dyno Numbers!! My Gen 3 Hemi is still warm from being dyno'd out at Muscle Motors today. I'll post all the details tomorrow, in my own thread. I'm too pooped to do it right now.

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: LSP] #934454
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for wich engine. i might know it already

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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: gremlinsteve] #934455
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for wich engine. i might know it already

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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: MattW] #934456
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got this on the net." now for the useful stuff.
Cylinder heads. big changes here, new closed chamber heads have smaller chambers (duh) than previous engines , 66.3cc in fact vs 84.9cc. even smaller than the 6.1's with 73.0cc. bolting these on to a previous hemi without modification would result in nearly a 12:1 compression ratio.

Are there pistons available to get a lower compression ratio than 12:1 using these heads on an earlier engine?I assume the stock later piston would work,not sure what CR is on late hemis though.
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