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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: brianw] #934377
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: sixpackgut] #934378
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does anyone have the combos of the new super stock cars?




i have heard of a stocker 6.1 A/stock engine making over 600hp peak. i dont even want to think about a super stock engine


My heads will be here this weekend...I will try to take pics.

I think bang for the buck, old short block with eagle heads is going to out do the 392 hemi for awhile.

Just wish the damn drag pak intake wasnt so expensive.

It looks like an eagle intake is the next to order.

Anyone have the username who sells the hemi rotating assemblies on EBAY?

justin


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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: wldtm] #934379
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What is a Eagle intake

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: MattW] #934380
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Did some surfing and came up with these # 03 to 08 84.9 cc and 09 and up 64 cc.
Hope this helps. Matt



Did some more research and I think if you use the 09 head on a stock bottom 5.7 I think compression will be almost 2 point higher so instead of 9.6 you would have 11.6. Matt

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: wldtm] #934381
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does anyone have the combos of the new super stock cars?




i have heard of a stocker 6.1 A/stock engine making over 600hp peak. i dont even want to think about a super stock engine


My heads will be here this weekend...I will try to take pics.

I think bang for the buck, old short block with eagle heads is going to out do the 392 hemi for awhile.

Just wish the damn drag pak intake wasnt so expensive.

It looks like an eagle intake is the next to order.

Anyone have the username who sells the hemi rotating assemblies on EBAY?

justin




Indy has an intake for the new hemi. If it performs as well as the Indy 360-3 it will be a good piece. Matt

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: 340RICK] #934382
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What is a Eagle intake




basically the car 09 intake manifold. similar to a 6.1 intake but not aluminum and not as pricey.

guessn around 230$ price range. drag pack intake = 1k$ list


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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: wldtm] #934383
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drag pack intake = 1k$ list




Expensive......yes, but there's nothing cooler!!


Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: STEFF] #934384
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is that intake and a mod man the only carb intakes for the new hemi?

Steff, is your car running yet? i'm looking foward to hearing how it runs


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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: ZIPPY] #934385
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Hey Zippy I'm still wondering why every body's calling them eagles when in StarParts they are just a 2009 & up 5.7L VVT head. I think the only reference was to some preproduction codename. Nowhere do i find that codename refereced now, what are your thoughts on this nomenclature?

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: NitroFixx] #934386
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Got a couple for just under $300ca a piece

Hey Zippy I'm still wondering why every body's calling them eagles when in StarParts they are just a 2009 & up 5.7L VVT head. I think the only reference was to some preproduction codename. Nowhere do i find that codename refereced now, what are your thoughts on this nomenclature?




09+ 5.7L Named Eagle

11+ 6.4L Named Apache


Word is a 600 HP Apache is in development now...

This Company is NOT messing around...with their Ferrari / Maserati company owning..owners.

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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: sixpackgut] #934387
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Steff, is your car running yet? i'm looking foward to hearing how it runs




Car was running. I tore the engine apart to port the heads & change cam. Should have it all back together soon.

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: wldtm] #934388
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What is a Eagle intake




basically the car 09 intake manifold. similar to a 6.1 intake but not aluminum and not as pricey.

guessn around 230$ price range. drag pack intake = 1k$ list




Can this intake be used on an 03-08 production car or truck. I am not talking about physically bolting on, I think I read that the intake was a variable design. Something to do with runner length? Is it compatible with the 03-08 computer.Matt

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: SRT6776] #934389
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Hey Zippy I'm still wondering why every body's calling them eagles when in StarParts they are just a 2009 & up 5.7L VVT head. I think the only reference was to some preproduction codename. Nowhere do i find that codename refereced now, what are your thoughts on this nomenclature?




09+ 5.7L Named Eagle

11+ 6.4L Named Apache


Word is a 600 HP Apache is in development now...

This Company is NOT messing around...with their Ferrari / Maserati company owning..owners.




That's correct on the internal "code names".

Though I know next to nothing about OE development, I know for sure the MP carbureted 392 crate motor was good for over 600 real measured HP. The only difference between it and the FI version is the tall single plane intake....that big manifold is the real deal. The catalog 540HP rating on the carb motor was very conservative....The FI version's 525 rating was very close to reality.

Taking carb, huge intake and no emissions requirements into account on the performance side, and taking variable cam/intake/larger budget/larger staff/more resources available on the OE side, I would have to predict the OE should be able to make the same or better power than the carb performance crate motor


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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: wldtm] #934390
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What is a Eagle intake




basically the car 09 intake manifold. similar to a 6.1 intake but not aluminum and not as pricey.

guessn around 230$ price range. drag pack intake = 1k$ list




Do you have a part #?

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: MattW] #934391
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I read that the 600 horse version was going to be supercharged.

Its said to go compete with the GT500 and ZL1..even though the 392 will run with both of them as is.

It was on allpar from someone that works at Chrysler, said it was in development.

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: SRT6776] #934392
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I read that the 600 horse version was going to be supercharged.

Its said to go compete with the GT500 and ZL1..even though the 392 will run with both of them as is.

It was on allpar from someone that works at Chrysler, said it was in development.


I think the problem with the 6.4L is not the HP it was the emissions. The last tune for the production 6.4L was over 500hp but couldn't pass emission standards. I am guess a supercharged version would be an easier way to solve that problems

Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: 540challenger] #934393
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: MattW] #934394
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What is a Eagle intake




basically the car 09 intake manifold. similar to a 6.1 intake but not aluminum and not as pricey.

guessn around 230$ price range. drag pack intake = 1k$ list




Can this intake be used on an 03-08 production car or truck. I am not talking about physically bolting on, I think I read that the intake was a variable design. Something to do with runner length? Is it compatible with the 03-08 computer.Matt




The production SRV intakes are not compatible with earlier 5.7L or even 6.1L engines.


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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: 540challenger] #934395
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I read that the 600 horse version was going to be supercharged.

Its said to go compete with the GT500 and ZL1..even though the 392 will run with both of them as is.

It was on allpar from someone that works at Chrysler, said it was in development.


I think the problem with the 6.4L is not the HP it was the emissions. The last tune for the production 6.4L was over 500hp but couldn't pass emission standards. I am guess a supercharged version would be an easier way to solve that problems




Where does this stuff come from? Last production tune at 500 h.p.? Emissions problems? Please realize that just because it was on ALLPAR or even here does not mean it is accurate.


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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head [Re: mike s] #934396
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I read that the 600 horse version was going to be supercharged.

Its said to go compete with the GT500 and ZL1..even though the 392 will run with both of them as is.

It was on allpar from someone that works at Chrysler, said it was in development.


I think the problem with the 6.4L is not the HP it was the emissions. The last tune for the production 6.4L was over 500hp but couldn't pass emission standards. I am guess a supercharged version would be an easier way to solve that problems




Where does this stuff come from? Last production tune at 500 h.p.? Emissions problems? Please realize that just because it was on ALLPAR or even here does not mean it is accurate.


LOL This came from this site i would have to look back into which thread the srt-8 6.4 has a very mellow tune b/c when they were dynoing it they couldn't get it to pass emission with the agressive tune. Also if you go to the LXforums they have the srt-engineers and you could asked them if you like. Just b/c you read it on the internet doesn't mean it is not accurate you have to do some research

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