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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: MattW]
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02/22/11 11:50 AM
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Much as I like the Gen 3, don't forget the discontinued 59 degree W9 also flowed 300 out of the box and had potential above and beyond that. But comparing an aftermarket race head to a dirt cheap OE production head ain't exactly fair  As far as the block taking it goes, there is a reason MP built the 392 at std bore, and it was not out of laziness. Don't bore it. It will surprise you.
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: ZIPPY]
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02/22/11 11:55 AM
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Much as I like the Gen 3, don't forget the discontinued
59 degree W9 also flowed 300 out of the box and had potential above and beyond that.
But comparing an aftermarket race head to a dirt cheap OE production head ain't exactly fair
As far as the block taking it goes, there is a reason MP built the 392 at std bore, and it was not out of laziness. Don't bore it. It will surprise you.
They need to start racing these things in roundy round cars then I think people would start buying. Matt
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
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02/22/11 11:58 AM
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53021608DE 53021609DE left and right head.
$704 out the door at my local dealer.
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: MattW]
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02/22/11 12:25 PM
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Much as I like the Gen 3, don't forget the discontinued
59 degree W9 also flowed 300 out of the box and had potential above and beyond that.
But comparing an aftermarket race head to a dirt cheap OE production head ain't exactly fair
As far as the block taking it goes, there is a reason MP built the 392 at std bore, and it was not out of laziness. Don't bore it. It will surprise you.
They need to start racing these things in roundy round cars then I think people would start buying. Matt
Penske has done their research on them years ago and asked permission from NASCAR to use it and they said No. gotta love that
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
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02/22/11 01:07 PM
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Much as I like the Gen 3, don't forget the discontinued
59 degree W9 also flowed 300 out of the box and had potential above and beyond that.
But comparing an aftermarket race head to a dirt cheap OE production head ain't exactly fair
As far as the block taking it goes, there is a reason MP built the 392 at std bore, and it was not out of laziness. Don't bore it. It will surprise you.
They need to start racing these things in roundy round cars then I think people would start buying. Matt
Penske has done their research on them years ago and asked permission from NASCAR to use it and they said No. gotta love that [/quote
Never mind the big leagues go with grass root get enough demand and .......
So if the new srt 8 is using the 5.7 Me thinks the 6.1 is on the chopping block.
Hey ZIPPY PLEASEEEEEE ask them to turn the 6.1 into a siameses bore block before they they scrap it. Matt
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: MattW]
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02/22/11 02:03 PM
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I just called my parts guy. The price i got was pretty damn impressive.  But he says there is note that the heads have no valve train on them, says they are core heads. So who has actaully seen these heads and what comes on them?
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
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02/22/11 02:14 PM
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I just called my parts guy.
The price i got was pretty damn impressive.
But he says there is note that the heads have
no valve train on them, says they are core heads.
So who has actaully seen these heads and what comes on them?
I have them in front of me. Mine came assembled and with spark plugs.
No rocker arms or shafts.
Matt
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
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02/22/11 02:19 PM
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I just called my parts guy.
The price i got was pretty damn impressive.
But he says there is note that the heads have
no valve train on them, says they are core heads.
So who has actaully seen these heads and what comes on them?
I have them in front of me. Mine came assembled and with spark plugs.
No rocker arms or shafts.
Matt
This is correct, my son has a set we bolted them on untouched & they work great
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
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02/22/11 02:31 PM
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I was surprised when I opened the box. Go to be close to $100 in plugs.
if you dont mind me asking, how much did you pay for them and what local dealer did you get them from?
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
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02/22/11 03:24 PM
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I was surprised when I opened the box. Go to be close to $100 in plugs.
if you dont mind me asking, how much did you pay for them and what local dealer did you get them from?
The best over here was 359.00 Canadian. Look at Dodgeparts.com it will give you a ballpark figure. You may get them cheaper there but remember, when you buy from a dealer close to you, you save delivery. Matt
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
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02/22/11 03:35 PM
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Hey ZIPPY PLEASEEEEEE ask them to turn the 6.1 into a siameses bore block before they they scrap it. Matt
Already did, about a year ago or therabouts.
Response was aluminum, aluminum, and aluminum.
That was the end of that 
Yeah I figure they are catering to people with money.
I just read that the 392 is only going to be 1492 units, so maybe the 6.1 isn't dead.
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: MattW]
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02/22/11 03:36 PM
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I just called my parts guy.
The price i got was pretty damn impressive.
But he says there is note that the heads have
no valve train on them, says they are core heads.
So who has actaully seen these heads and what comes on them?
I have them in front of me. Mine came assembled and with spark plugs.
No rocker arms or shafts.
Matt
Ok so you just use the stock valve train off of another set of heads.
Thanks for your help!
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
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02/22/11 03:41 PM
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I just called my parts guy.
The price i got was pretty damn impressive.
But he says there is note that the heads have
no valve train on them, says they are core heads.
So who has actaully seen these heads and what comes on them?
I have them in front of me. Mine came assembled and with spark plugs.
No rocker arms or shafts.
Matt
Ok so you just use the stock valve train off of another set of heads.
Thanks for your help!
Or afterrmarket. Harland Sharp , Jesel, and Rocker ARM Specialist is rumored to be coming out with a set. I am sure TD has something in the works.
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had to put them on a card. so it will probably turn into $800 