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Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: Al_Alguire] #933592
02/21/11 01:26 AM
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Al that's one reason thinking of going with one myself, yours took a crap and did not try to remove your feet like a TF most likley would have.

Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: fishy340] #933593
02/21/11 01:27 AM
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what do u guys think of powerglides in a 3000lb street/strip beast?




Well, that's an incredibly open ended question! When ordering a converter, the first thing they will want to know is exactly what you mean by Street/Strip... 80/20? 50/50? 20/80? Are you gonna be one of those guys that begs for a 5000 stall then calls them back 2 months later to complain about losing 2 MPG's?? Or ask for a 3800 and then complain when you lose a 10th in 60'??

Bad News, with a Street/strip Glide, converter choice is EVERYTHING! Good News, converter choice, and quality for a glide is much better than what is offered for a 904/727.

While I've ran Glides in my drag cars for 15 years and am extremely satisfied with that choice, I decided to stay with a low-gear set 904 in my Strip/Street 3000 lb 62 Valiant with 389 small-block. To be truthfull, the jury is still out, the griner pro-tree LBA brake, re-build, carbon fiber sheild, and new J&W Converter actually set me back more than I could have done a suitable glide for, then I trashed the D-shaft, so I have to build a new one, and I upgraded the shifter...so now I'm looking back thinking...this better work!!!

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Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: MoparBilly] #933594
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Wouldn't have anything else in a car that I bracket race. I run one in a 3100Lb BB Dart.

A car that is going to see street use however I don't think I would go with a glide.


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Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: moparacer] #933595
02/21/11 02:01 AM
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Like others have said, the over 3000 lbs. and a Glide is a myth. My '64 Dodge is around 3300 and has had a 1.76 Glide in it for well over 15 years now. The trans was originally built by Jerry Taylor in Maryland and subsequently freshened by Carl Rossler. I run an ATI converter as well. The car has gone 9.94 @ 136 with a .060 440 and OOTB 440-1's.

Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: fishy340] #933596
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I just finished building one for my 3000 lb bracket car.

Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: Dabee] #933597
02/21/11 11:23 AM
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Just my opinion as everyone else is giving one but, I would like to include more than the weight of the car for making the better choice.

I would venture to say that most big blocks do not see huge improvements with a torqueflite. Small blocks with over 4" of stroke may not see much either. I am talking cars over 3,000 lbs. If your car is light your bannanas are not comparable with these potatoes.

You need to look at where your engine makes power. Narrow power bands will benefit from the gear ratio of a torqueflite. If your engine is torque limited in comparison to HP a powerglide is not going to be a good choice.

I have made no secret my nitrous combo really suffered in the short times with a glide after removing the 727 with stock gearing. But, the quarter mile picked up big time. Looking at acquisition prooved it was the limited holding power of the 9.5" torque converter that made the torqueflite slow on top. After big gear changes I found the short times with the glide. And everthing got JINGY. In hind site a high first gear, a tranny spacer, and a GM dept converter would have been even faster with the flite. So spend $2,000 extra on the torqueflite and it would have been faster than the Glide. I had about $2,500 in the torqueflite. $3,500 was spent just to build the glide. So a torqueflite for my combo would have been more expensive.

Most guys do not need aftermarket planets, in 727 no matter how heavy the car. Powerglides will break planets with tire shake. Never broke a planet when I ran a nitrous combo. With the NA engine torque is limited and tire shake happens.

Light bracket cars=powerglide best choice
Narrow power band engines=torqueflite
Limited torque high HP=torqueflite
Big power/Big torque=powerglide


You just have to consider weight, power, torque, and anything else like power adders. I would have no reason to say a powerglide is not for the street. And if you run a 727 figure $500 for a drum that will not blow up. Don't care what sprag, output shaft, or planet you have. Do not race a 727 without a billet Drum. And then just give the one finger salute to the guys who talk about loosing feet. You will have nothing to worry about.

Leon


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Re: powerglide tranny in 3000lb car [Re: fishy340] #933598
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Quote:

what do u guys think of powerglides in a 3000lb street/strip beast?




Looks like you get to pick from a wide range of combinations, since you didn't give yours. Without more info I don't see how anyone can think they can give good advice on your car, only what they do on theirs.


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