Re: aluminim water pump housing
[Re: Stanton]
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01/28/11 04:29 PM
01/28/11 04:29 PM
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Greg,the A/C pump is six blade,not eight
People automatically assume that in order to solve an overheating problem you have to move the coolant through faster. In reality, slowing it down will allow it to cool more. Hence fewer blades on the a/c pump. This also leads to the issue with the 440source pumps - where the 90* has the smaller., restricted passage. While people are quick to put blame here they should be looking elsewhere, thermostat, pump, rad size, etc..
The cooling system, like anything else, has to have matched components to function properly. The pump body is the least of your worries other than having the bolt holes in the right place!
yea ..this comes up once or twice a month at least. Engine tune-up is something that shouldn't be overlooked either. I run the cheapie CAT housing and pump on my (12.1cr)max wedge with a stock 22" maxie radiator and 160 stat. No matter how long it runs, it doesn't overheat. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Twocents.gif)
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Re: aluminim water pump housing
[Re: 62maxwgn]
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01/28/11 11:06 PM
01/28/11 11:06 PM
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Test performed on 440 source housing! Quote. Sorry guys... I ran these critters to the max and it looks as though the problem lies with differences in pump performance and not the housings.
I used a rig with unrestricted 1-1/2" inlets and outlets, and 1" recirc lines that let the pumps flow to the physical limits of the housings. The housings seem to peak out at about 40 gallons per minute (a flow rate your vehicle will never see due to restrictions in the radiator, thermostat, engine block, hoses, etc). Trying to push the flow rates harder than this resulted in a lot of.... well for lack of a better understood term... Bucking. This information is just trivia of course, but still interesting to note.
That said... I ran the 2 pumps that I had (the stock 8 blade Mopar & 440 source HV unit) on the 3 housings that I had ( the 2 stock Mopar styles {Left & Right}, and the "restricted" 440 source unit), and in each and every case the pumps flowed the same irregardless of the housing they were mounted on. In other words, the stock Mopar pump flowed better than the 440 pump, but it still flowed the same irregardless of the housing. Changing housings had no effect on flow rates.
Note that as the rpm's increased, the 440 source pump started to catch up with the stock Mopar unit, but in the end it was still just a little behind... but not enough to care about.
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Re: aluminim water pump housing
[Re: Sinitro]
#913936
01/28/11 11:46 PM
01/28/11 11:46 PM
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The aluminum water pump housing sold by 440source and pro-comp, made in China has smaller water passages.. Some were complaining about its inability to kool effectively. A thread was posted a couple of months back comparing that one to the Mopar Performance version.
I read the same thing, seems as though there was some mention of the passages not being cleaned out properly too, as in casting slag, so the passages could not provide proper flow.
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