Re: 430" small block build
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01/24/11 10:29 PM
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the heads will be a progression through Eddy heads. Ryan J will be working some magic on a set.
will this be ready for the rental u guys do every year? and also best of luck with it
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Re: 430" small block build
[Re: fishy340]
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01/24/11 10:31 PM
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Looks like an awesome rotating assembly. Be interested to see how much block clearancing will be needed for that stroke.
With the 2" journal - less then a 4" stroke with a stock mopar journal
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the heads will be a progression through Eddy heads. Ryan J will be working some magic on a set.
will this be ready for the rental u guys do every year? and also best of luck with it
the motor better be - the car - not a chance...
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Re: 430" small block build
[Re: fishy340]
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01/24/11 10:31 PM
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I hope that 4 bolt caps are in the plans
70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake
best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4
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Re: 430" small block build
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01/24/11 11:40 PM
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I bought a R block last year to build a Big Inch small block, but after talking to RyanJ on what I had. At this point I will be going with a stock block build. Since I have a 9.20" 59 degree 48 babbit cam tunnel block with a 3.990 hone finish bore. What happened with that R3 block was Mopar line bored the cam tunnel in those 59* Siamese bore 9.20" R3's accidentally oversize to the 48 degree dimension.... the problem with that is no camshaft core ever existed for a 1.998" journal on all 5 cam journals AND 59 degree lobe spacing & bank angle. Basically what I'm telling you is there is no camshaft you can buy to install in your bock.
Switched to the dark side...
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Re: 430" small block build
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01/25/11 07:55 AM
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I bought a R block last year to build a Big Inch small block, but after talking to RyanJ on what I had. At this point I will be going with a stock block build. Since I have a 9.20" 59 degree 48 babbit cam tunnel block with a 3.990 hone finish bore. What happened with that R3 block was Mopar line bored the cam tunnel in those 59* Siamese bore 9.20" R3's accidentally oversize to the 48 degree dimension.... the problem with that is no camshaft core ever existed for a 1.998" journal on all 5 cam journals AND 59 degree lobe spacing & bank angle. Basically what I'm telling you is there is no camshaft you can buy to install in your bock.
Where did you get that block? I think I saw that one .
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Re: 430" small block build
[Re: fasthawk6]
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01/25/11 12:38 PM
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The only thing i dont like is that much stroke,after taking a buddys 445 sbf apart you can see the small end on the rod bushing was getting bet to death[you can see by eye how bad one side is wore ]to much side loading. he is going back to a 4 inch stroke
What stroke and rod length was on this engine? Forced induction? More details please.
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Re: 430" small block build
[Re: quick77rt ]
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01/25/11 01:21 PM
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Well so much for ford junk, thought this was about small block mopars.
Ive several strokers from 410s to a hair over 450 inches, have not noticed any rods issues on inspection and they often see over 7k.
More and more we will see the 4 plus stroke cranks as common as the 4 inchers.
40Ford can fill folks in on what an X block will take or just read some of his postings, its pretty clear you can knock the sides out of anything if you try hard enough.
But other then some cast crank posts I dont see many small blocks, oem or afterm, X R with there guts spit out as we do so many stock block BB motors.
Dont see how a small block ford plays into this, the small block stroker has proven itself as a good solid combo. And im sure Dave knows the right people to get it done.
Ok, What about excessive bore wear? Piston life? Rings? There are a few of us sitting on r blocks who would like to build a nice stout street/strip engine that will last a while with a 4.25 inch stroke or maybe larger...without having to be torn down every winter. Daily driver duty...
But until now, it's very hard to get any kind of take on what the life expectancy would be in general compared to say a simple 4 incher.
It's hard to make a decision without getting the facts. I know these things vary greatly, but is there any kind of general rule of thumb here? What to expect?
Insight?
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