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Thanks again on the blinder info guys I just look at the bottom bulb, but never thought of using a blinder

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You can also hold one hand up to blind the tree, works well in daylight Probally not so good at night, I haven't raced at night in a long time

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I have seen Micheal Beard ( Duct Tape sponsored Aspen) win no box, then go to the semi's in box running off the foot vs box racers.

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I beleive I can knock off any box car at any time and have won some big money doing just that. That being said, there have only been a few instances where I have thrown up sub .025 packages the whole way and at a Tenn Tuck type event; you pretty much have to do just that to win.

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I beleive I can knock off any box car at any time and have won some big money doing just that. That being said, there have only been a few instances where I have thrown up sub .025 packages the whole way and at a Tenn Tuck type event; you pretty much have to do just that to win.

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you should bring it down here, there are lots of big buck bracket racing going on

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I was having a discussion with our new track operator and some racers tonight and this question came up. How much of an advantage do you think someone has in a bracket race with a delay box? NO crossover/crosstalk, just a single hit on a .500 full tree.? Don't care about the throttle stop at this point. He is having a quick 32 door car race, but it's open for all. I was trying to get some support for a NO electronic quick 32, like transbrake/2step only, race. So let's hear what you think.

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I have never used a box, but have friends that do. I have watched them over the years and have had to race against them from time to time. the only way that running a box can make racing easier is if you get to use is against racers that that don't. The box gives you a huge advantage at the line, however all the other cars have the same huge advantage. Everyone can pick out one example when a foot brake guy beat all the electronic guys. Heck I've done it myself. Put that same lucky foot brake winner into the Super Pro class for a while and he will learn how to lose and lose often. If you want to put together a Q32 race and include all the racers, the only fair way is to simply use a .4 pro tree.

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how would that be fair? most slower footbrake type cars would be at a huge disadvantage because most of them can't cut a decent light on a .4 tree

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Bill McCarty won all 3 classes one night last summer with a footbrake Dakota.

Bill is a bad man.

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Yes he most certainly did and again on any given day you can knock em off for 7 rounds. Consistently week in and week out becomes a different game and there are a percentage that can and will do it but the vast majority cannot. That being said; give me my choice of 5 no box guys against 5 box guys and I can make a pretty even race. I'll take Slick Rick against anybody on the planet!

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I beleive I can knock off any box car at any time and have won some big money doing just that. That being said, there have only been a few instances where I have thrown up sub .025 packages the whole way and at a Tenn Tuck type event; you pretty much have to do just that to win.

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you should bring it down here, there are lots of big buck bracket racing going on

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Bill McCarty won all 3 classes one night last summer with a footbrake Dakota.

Bill is a bad man.

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Yes he most certainly did and again on any given day you can knock em off for 7 rounds. Consistently week in and week out becomes a different game and there are a percentage that can and will do it but the vast majority cannot. That being said; give me my choice of 5 no box guys against 5 box guys and I can make a pretty even race. I'll take Slick Rick against anybody on the planet!

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Amen to that...I cringe if I see that Camaro anywhere near me