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Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat #907953 01/18/11 11:19 AM 01/18/11 11:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,288 Danville, NH M Mopar_Mike OP master
Mopar_Mike OP master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,288 Danville, NH	I need to put a 6pt roll bar in my 67 Coronet. I am thinking to come down through the rear speaker holes and into the trunk for the rear braces. I would like to also install the rear seat though. How is this done with the roll bar installed? Will the seat still fit? Pics would be nice if you have em. Thanks. RS23L7 4-Speed

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: Mopar_Mike] #907954 01/18/11 11:35 AM 01/18/11 11:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 587 IL . usa C cjs69mope mopar
cjs69mope mopar C Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 587 IL . usa	I would like to know This too , how do you get side interior panels and rear seat in there?I was thinking people weld the cage in with the seat already in the car ? 1969 Dodge Charger 1969 Dodge Superbee

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: cjs69mope] #907955 01/18/11 11:43 AM 01/18/11 11:43 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI P prochargedhemi super stock
prochargedhemi super stock P Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI	this is how we did my challenger, can still install/remove seat and interior panels but its all really tight

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: Mopar_Mike] #907956 01/18/11 11:58 AM 01/18/11 11:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	You have to run the cgae up along the roof as close as you can then drop them back t hru the speaker holes. Even w/ all that it is VERY hard to get in and out of the back seat. Looking at that E-body i wonder even if it will be possible w/o a ton of effort. Maybe if you made the pass seat track flip forward like on some 2 door SUV's it might work. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: Mr.Yuck] #907957 01/18/11 12:04 PM 01/18/11 12:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	these bars would have to go. Not sure what class this cage is for maybe they are required. But not a chance I could get my 6'1" frame back there. I'd run the uppers along the roof and then drop them thru the package tray. 6425040-cagea7.jpg (260 downloads)

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: Mr.Yuck] #907958 01/18/11 12:18 PM 01/18/11 12:18 PM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	My Morrison kit does just that.........bars follow the roof and drop through the speaker holes. It will be tough for the kiddies to get back there , but I'll never ride back there , so what do I care. A large adult WILL have their work cut out for them. Better to have them follow in their car and give them rides one at a time.

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: Mr.Yuck] #907959 01/18/11 12:36 PM 01/18/11 12:36 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI P prochargedhemi super stock
prochargedhemi super stock P Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI	Quote: these bars would have to go. Not sure what class this cage is for maybe they are required. But not a chance I could get my 6'1" frame back there. I'd run the uppers along the roof and then drop them thru the package tray. cage was never meant to have anyone (person) back there. just to be able to retain the the rear seat. more of a set up really, like "hey my car isn't fast it still has a back seat in it

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: prochargedhemi] #907960 01/18/11 12:44 PM 01/18/11 12:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,031 Erda, UT 67Charger master
67Charger master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,031 Erda, UT	I left my door panels in when the cage went in, but I can still get them in and out. Can't help you on the seats. I'll see if I can dig up some pics, but I have full size passengers in the rear of the Charger on a regular basis. You simply must resign yourself to go under the bar face up after going over the door bar andbehind the front seat. You get used to it just like getting used to going over a door bar and in to the front seat. 11.33 @ 118.46 on motor 10.75 @ 125.35 w/ a little spray Now, high Speed Open Road Racing - Silver State Classic Challenge, Nevada Open Road Challenge, Big Bend Open Road Race Rocky Mountain Race Week 2020, 2022 2.0, Sick Week 2023

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: prochargedhemi] #907961 01/18/11 12:49 PM 01/18/11 12:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Quote: these bars would have to go. Not sure what class this cage is for maybe they are required. But not a chance I could get my 6'1" frame back there. I'd run the uppers along the roof and then drop them thru the package tray. cage was never meant to have anyone (person) back there. just to be able to retain the the rear seat. more of a set up really, like "hey my car isn't fast it still has a back seat in it stick a child saftey seat back there. Yeah I race it and take my kid to school in it.

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: Mopar_Mike] #907962 01/18/11 01:04 PM 01/18/11 01:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,783 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,783 Bitopia	Quote: I would like to also install the rear seat though. Your title says "use" and then "install". Need to define "use". There is hardly any street use safe way to have passengers in the back seat with a well designed cage, unless getting hit in the head with a 1 5/8" steel baseball bat at 50 mph is OK, and foam without a helmet is useless, or they are your inlaws Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: jcc] #907963 01/18/11 01:21 PM 01/18/11 01:21 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,894 MI, usa	Mines bent up close to the C pillars and padded. I'm 6.0 and can sit there ok. I had to install the seat through the rear window opening. Other times I've cut the front lower wire/bar of the seat frame so you can fold it somewhat. The wire can be held together with a piece of tubeing slid to the side and then back over the cut area after installation. Doug

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: jcc] #907964 01/18/11 01:33 PM 01/18/11 01:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,288 Danville, NH M Mopar_Mike OP master
Mopar_Mike OP master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,288 Danville, NH	Quote: Quote: I would like to also install the rear seat though. Your title says "use" and then "install". Need to define "use". There is hardly any street use safe way to have passengers in the back seat with a well designed cage, unless getting hit in the head with a 1 5/8" steel baseball bat at 50 mph is OK, and foam without a helmet is useless, or they are your inlaws Yes, I suppose I should clarify.. I would like to install the back seat and rear inner panels. I am not concerned with anyone sitting back there. I just don't want to install the role bar and then find out I can't put the back seat back in the car. Thanks for all you input. RS23L7 4-Speed

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: Mopar_Mike] #907965 01/18/11 01:57 PM 01/18/11 01:57 PM
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67dodge67 mopar addict 6 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 989 WI, USA	Quote: I need to put a 6pt roll bar in my 67 Coronet. I am thinking to come down through the rear speaker holes and into the trunk for the rear braces. I would like to also install the rear seat though. How is this done with the roll bar installed? Will the seat still fit? Pics would be nice if you have em. Thanks. I'll be following this thread because I'm planning to do the same for my 67 Coronet in the Spring. I know S&W offers good kits but would like to see it done. Pics would definitley be beneficial here.

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: 67dodge67] #907966 01/18/11 02:25 PM 01/18/11 02:25 PM
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Valiant_Showoff super stock V Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 951 Alliance, Ohio	Just my 2 cents, but I wouldn't want to be a backseat passenger in a car with a cage. Bouncing your head off of a steel bar wouldn't be fun. Even in a very low speed fender bender.

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: Mopar_Mike] #907967 01/18/11 02:42 PM 01/18/11 02:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,125 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,125 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: Quote: Quote: I would like to also install the rear seat though. Your title says "use" and then "install". Need to define "use". There is hardly any street use safe way to have passengers in the back seat with a well designed cage, unless getting hit in the head with a 1 5/8" steel baseball bat at 50 mph is OK, and foam without a helmet is useless, or they are your inlaws Yes, I suppose I should clarify.. I would like to install the back seat and rear inner panels. I am not concerned with anyone sitting back there. I just don't want to install the role bar and then find out I can't put the back seat back in the car. Thanks for all you input. Mike take the car with the rear seat to the shop you have the bar put in and tell them you want to be able to pull the seat out , problem solved .

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: JohnRR] #907968 01/18/11 04:30 PM 01/18/11 04:30 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,688 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,688 W. Kentucky	My bars follow the roof line and drop through the speaker holes, A body. The rear seat was not too bad to install, the passengers front seat does have to be out to get it in though. I will never let anyone ride in the back seat of my car as long as it has a bar in it. Not only is hard to get in and out of the bars would hurt you more than than even a low speed accident would IMHO. Not a chance I'm willing to take.

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: justinp61] #907969 01/18/11 06:45 PM 01/18/11 06:45 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,628 anywhere@ anytime A actionange top fuel
actionange top fuel A Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,628 anywhere@ anytime	Mike, I have an 10 point rollcage done in my 67 Belvedere. The 2 rear bars were custom bent to go down through the speaker holes. The front seat had to be out and the rear seat had to be sneaked in between the main hoop and rear bars with the rear windows rolled down- but it went in and there it will stay. I get some pics on here later today for all to see. How's the rest of your project coming along?

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: actionange] #907970 01/18/11 08:40 PM 01/18/11 08:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 793 Utah topbrent super stock
topbrent super stock Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 793 Utah	Here are a few shots of 67autocross's 67 dart build. Nicely fitted roll bar.

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: actionange] #907971 01/18/11 08:41 PM 01/18/11 08:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 449 Wisconsin sjs64polara mopar
sjs64polara mopar Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 449 Wisconsin	The 2 main bars made it impossible to install the rear seat so we cut the seat in half, welded in additional supports and added mount tabs then had the upholstery shop make it look pretty again. Make sure to add extra foam in the seat spilt line. Adding the extra foam made it hard to see the spilt. Now my 2 little boys can enjoy rides to the local ice cream stands and car shows again 6425911-Slicks_9-9-10_030_web.jpg (175 downloads)

Re: Putting in a roll bar and using the back seat [Re: sjs64polara] #907972 01/18/11 09:16 PM 01/18/11 09:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA. Quicksilver440 I Live Here
Quicksilver440 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,766 Central Valley, CA.	Here's how I did my challenger....the rear seat went in no problem and is usable even by adults. I had to bend the main hoop in to allow clearance for the door panels.

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