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Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: RodStRace] #900124 01/11/11 02:39 PM 01/11/11 02:39 PM
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JSR1485 super stock Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,123 Seaford Delaware	I agree 100% with Tony I have been racing at Raceway park since 1977 and have been going there longer than that and they are and have always been nothing but "TOP Notch" The Napp Family has always looked out for us racer's and I would bet the that insurance carrier told them this is what you have to do and this has to be signed by the racer's. I also have a story, my son who was 5 @ the time jumped out of a moving golf cart in the pits and landed face first on the asphalt -he was a mess and so was I ! I was driving when he jumped out. I had more EMTs and people helping. They truely took care of him and me. Switched to the dark side...

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: JSR1485] #900125 01/11/11 03:21 PM 01/11/11 03:21 PM
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emarine01 master E Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,695 nc	Insurance Co,s make huge amounts of profit from what the American people dont know,

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: emarine01] #900126 01/11/11 07:36 PM 01/11/11 07:36 PM
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11secdart master 1 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,991 new jersey usa	Although I don`t race there every week, I do race there several times a year and raced their Friday Night " Mean Street" series for a couple of years and I agree the place has always been top notch. Years ago I was on my way to ETown when my truck started to miss, so I pulled into the K Mart Plaza on 18 and changed the under the p/u body gas filter and in the process got a nasty burn along with a little gas in it. When I got to the track my wife insisted I go see the track EMTs to have it looked at, they did, they cleaned the burn and properly applied burn cream and a bandage. They didn`t have to, the injury didn`t even happen at the track but they were nice enough to properly treat the injury and I am/was thankful for that. 68 Dart 410 / 904 92 D150 original owner 21 Ram 1500 Quad Cab, Big Horn , Hemi ,4x4 23 Audi Q5 16 Honda HRV

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: emarine01] #900127 01/12/11 12:10 PM 01/12/11 12:10 PM
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polyspheric master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,213 New York	Insurance Co,s make huge amounts of profit Some decades ago, the NJ car insurance companies asked the State legislature for a rate increase. "Here's our numbers, we're not making enough money". "Didn't you forget to include the money you made by investing the payments - a few hundred million?" "That's none of your business". They didn't get it - that time. Boffin Emeritus

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: polyspheric] #900128 01/12/11 12:25 PM 01/12/11 12:25 PM
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n20mstr master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,699 On the parachute mount	AS far as safety goes....E town is on top of it... ONE of the best tracks in the country ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: polyspheric] #900129 01/13/11 07:37 AM 01/13/11 07:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 815 Alexandria, NJ WayneM OP super stock
WayneM OP super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 815 Alexandria, NJ	Quote: 1. You can't race unless you sign it, so it's not a choice 2. Without going into complex language, it doesn't protect them as well as it says. 3. there is no such thing as waiving your right to sue - even if it says so. Yes, contracts say so all the time - and that's why it's there, they hope you believe it. Major prison sentence deals are done every day with the convict waiving his right to appeal as part of the bargain - and they do it anyway (complicated, details on request). A waiver is just another layer of paper your attorney cuts through to sue them - under certain conditions. 4. "Negligence" means different things to different people at different times. Failure to warn you of something you should know anyway (the track is wet) isn't their fault. Forgetting to tell you they parked a Cat D7 in the shut-down area is a tort recovery action regardless of whatever you signed. I guess in the "legal eagle" society we live in today, you'll have to get the right guy to defend you when the time comes- and hope and pray it never does. I have been around that track a bit myself. my first run happened when the present tower was just a skeleton... I have been on the side for a while waiting for the chance to jump back in. I know Etown is known as a state of the art facility. I have never needed their medical services in my 500 or so passes I have logged there. I DO get concerned about the future though. Will you know about a change in their policy when or if it happens? After all it is primarily a business to them. It's a hobby or love to us. 2014 Durango R/T 2004 Dodge Ram 3500 SRW SLT short quad Cummins 6 speed 1998 Dodge Durango SLT 5.2 1971 Plymouth Duster- <<<<<MOPAR SPOKEN HERE>>>>>

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: WayneM] #900130 01/13/11 07:45 PM 01/13/11 07:45 PM
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fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	this all started when that YELLOW DUSTER,smoked that tube chassis 2400lb capri,duster on his roof,capri on fire!

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: fishy340] #900131 01/13/11 08:18 PM 01/13/11 08:18 PM
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11secdart master 1 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,991 new jersey usa	Was that last July on a Sunday? I think thats the day I Won Street Eliminator, I remember a long cleanup and I think it was a Maverick not a Crapi. 68 Dart 410 / 904 92 D150 original owner 21 Ram 1500 Quad Cab, Big Horn , Hemi ,4x4 23 Audi Q5 16 Honda HRV

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: 11secdart] #900132 01/13/11 10:39 PM 01/13/11 10:39 PM
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emarine01 master E Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,695 nc	Don't mean to change the subject but,,, Do some of you guys have a no pay clause in your life insurance for auto racing?

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: emarine01] #900133 01/13/11 10:41 PM 01/13/11 10:41 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Don't mean to change the subject but,,, Do some of you guys have a no pay clause in your life insurance for auto racing? I pay $1 a month extra for a rider on mine.

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: emarine01] #900134 01/14/11 07:21 AM 01/14/11 07:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 815 Alexandria, NJ WayneM OP super stock
WayneM OP super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 815 Alexandria, NJ	Quote: Don't mean to change the subject but,,, Do some of you guys have a no pay clause in your life insurance for auto racing? DEFINETLY not changing the subject! This is what I worry about. I have a house and extended family living in it. Nowadays I have to weigh my risks. I never knew of such a thing. Back to the legal thought, I know bikers have lawyers specializing in their corner, maybe Drag Racers should have it too. I think I saw some legal representation in National Dragster, but local would be better. 2014 Durango R/T 2004 Dodge Ram 3500 SRW SLT short quad Cummins 6 speed 1998 Dodge Durango SLT 5.2 1971 Plymouth Duster- <<<<<MOPAR SPOKEN HERE>>>>>

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: WayneM] #900135 01/14/11 07:57 PM 01/14/11 07:57 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,233 Someplace you aren't S SomeCarGuy I Live Here
SomeCarGuy I Live Here S Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,233 Someplace you aren't	I paid about 3 bucks a month extra for a rider that covered me while racing. After I got too busy to race, my agent suggested that enough time had passed (3 years) that we submit a form and drop it. Underwriters agreed but I have been asked when applying for more coverage specifically about the matter.

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: SomeCarGuy] #900136 01/14/11 10:32 PM 01/14/11 10:32 PM
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dennismopar73 top fuel D Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill	these are just standard waiver forms nothin to get excited about you know when you race it on you the reason they do this try to keep the liabilty down somewhat. if wasnt for stupid people sueing over to hot of coffie or hey i was driving down this 2 lane rd and there was another car beside me and he hit me , ooo by the way it was at a racetrack woooo we didnt know that its a risk we all accept when we go, so just sign the d..... thing go racin if not dont race if you keep this up you wont have any track to run at because ins would be to high and they would have to close so come on get over allready

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: WayneM] #900137 01/14/11 10:46 PM 01/14/11 10:46 PM
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n20mstr master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,699 On the parachute mount	Quote: Quote: Don't mean to change the subject but,,, Do some of you guys have a no pay clause in your life insurance for auto racing? DEFINETLY not changing the subject! This is what I worry about. I have a house and extended family living in it. Nowadays I have to weigh my risks. I never knew of such a thing. Back to the legal thought, I know bikers have lawyers specializing in their corner, maybe Drag Racers should have it too. I think I saw some legal representation in National Dragster, but local would be better. My life insurance covers me at the racetrack, wether it be spectating or driving. I made sure of that ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: Englishtown's waiver of liability agreement [Re: emarine01] #900138 01/15/11 12:30 AM 01/15/11 12:30 AM
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Dago Red mopar Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 653 Fort Worth, TX	Quote: Don't mean to change the subject but,,, Do some of you guys have a no pay clause in your life insurance for auto racing? This one's a real deal gang. My wife worked in the insurance business and showed me buried way down the bottom are things called "high risk hobbies" that can give the insurance companies an out from having to pay on life insurance policies. Auto racing is one of them.....so is skydiving, bull riding, stunt flying, wreck diving, rodeo clown, bungey jumping et al. There's about forty of them. Being a dumb redneck isn't on there.....yet. "Hold my beer and watch this.." If You Can't Be Good, At Least Be Colorful

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