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What creates engine rpm? #898329
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Was arguing with my father on this subject at its most basic level..he is a good wrench and asked me what creates the rpms of the engine?I searched but didnt find anything..he asks people for fun and the say the go pedal or the carb..but then they get what he's saying.

I believe once the engine is operating at idle the throttle plates(butterflys,flappers) are responsible for an increase in rpm.I understand that more fuel is pulled though the meterings in the carb to keep the proper mix but increased suction from opening the throttle plated allowing more air that it is already asking for by creating the suction because of the restriction of the mostly closed plates relying on the idle circuit.So you get rid of the air restriction by opening the blades and it by nature pulls in more air then all the engineered buisness kicks in.This applys to a single cylinder or 12 as long as its a 4 stroke cycle.

So whats the real answer..my ol man likes to over analyze


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Wouldn't the load through the transmission regulate RPM's also?

WOT RPM @ the end of first gear isn't the same as the beginning of 4th, even if the plates are completely open.

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You might want to specify...What type of engine...?
Diesels run at wide open throttle, the RPMs rise when the fuel injectors increase flow.

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The engine is an air pump.
The pistons create the suction that draws the air into the pump. More air= more R.P.M's.

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combustion creates rpm. air/fuel quantity varies it.


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combustion creates rpm. air/fuel quantity varies it.






And I'll add to this.....Atmospheric pressure...


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combustion creates rpm. air/fuel quantity varies it.






And I'll add to this.....Atmospheric pressure...




+ foot pressure........


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the starter creates rpms by turning the engine over and starting it,as it has no rpms till the starter turns it first

then it increases after that with the throttle opening up with foot pressure


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what creates the rpms of the engine?



The laws of Physics.
More specifically......
THERMODYNAMICS

(or for the hard-core Fundamentalists: "God")

Personally I think it's "F.M."

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Wouldn't the load through the transmission regulate RPM's also?

WOT RPM @ the end of first gear isn't the same as the beginning of 4th, even if the plates are completely open.


To answer the question as stated "What creates engine rpm?" the answer would be the engine itself or; what creates engine rpm = how does an engine function. I believe that you meant to ask, how does an engine increase/decrease rpm. The simple answer to that is the regulation of air/fuel mixture introduced into the combustion chamber. That coupled with many other variables will determine engine efficiency and performance.

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what creates the rpms of the engine?



The laws of Physics.
More specifically......
THERMODYNAMICS

(or for the hard-core Fundamentalists: "God")

Personally I think it's "F.M."





or PFM


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air, fuel, spark

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The increase of RPM is a result of more air & fuel being added. More air and more fuel = bigger boom = more force on the rods = spins the crank faster


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The chicken came first....




after the egg broke hi Buzz

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In my experience RPM comes with a heavy foot and lack of traction.

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Odd post i am sure but thanks to all for the responses if you read the jumbled tired mess i wrote i think i was close in description more air=higher cylinder pressure knocking the piston dowm faster..thanks guys have a good weekend i'll print this for him..


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It's too simple, the revolution of the crank "creates" rpm.
R.P.M. is just a measurement of movement.
No mater what turns the crank, it is rpm only if the crank turns.
Now I was wondering what causes the crank to move.
Or are we asking what causes the rise and fall of rpm.

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Wouldn't the load through the transmission regulate RPM's also?

WOT RPM @ the end of first gear isn't the same as the beginning of 4th, even if the plates are completely open.


To answer the question as stated "What creates engine rpm?" the answer would be the engine itself or; what creates engine rpm = how does an engine function. I believe that you meant to ask, how does an engine increase/decrease rpm. The simple answer to that is the regulation of air/fuel mixture introduced into the combustion chamber. That coupled with many other variables will determine engine efficiency and performance.




Hey, leave the rocket science to me....I'm qualified.

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