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scaled challenger today #892515
12/31/10 02:49 PM
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and i dont have as much hp as i thought i had

these are the numbers. empty gas tank. i must say that my car went straight by tuning at the track and i think the numbers are pretty close

LF 913
RF 880
LR 801
RR 824

total w/me 3418 with no gas

my best on motor is a 6.25 @ 110 mph

one thing that puzzles me is how do i know that those scales are right and the truck scale i weighed on is wrong

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Re: scaled challenger today [Re: sixpackgut] #892516
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just curious but what was the wight difference between both scales? I thought you were 3600


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Re: scaled challenger today [Re: sixpackgut] #892517
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i stood on each one of mine.then compared it to my certified propane scale at work.
the problem i found with truck scales is the number changed depending on where the car was on the scale.

Re: scaled challenger today [Re: moparniac] #892518
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truck scale had me at 3780 but i removed stuff and deducted best i could. i had figured my weight all this time was 3650. so, fill my car with gas i guess that would be 100 lbs maybe more. its not that far off. when i'm driving the car around i always have a tool box in the car so that could add a bit


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Re: scaled challenger today [Re: 71cuda] #892519
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i stood on each one of mine.then compared it to my certified propane scale at work.
the problem i found with truck scales is the number changed depending on where the car was on the scale.




i should have done that. next time


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Re: scaled challenger today [Re: sixpackgut] #892520
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are those numbers with you in the seat?

i wouldn't worry about the horsepower, your making at least 500, 600 if you put it on cabs dyno


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are those numbers with you in the seat?

i wouldn't worry about the horsepower, your making at least 500, 600 if you put it on cabs dyno






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Re: scaled challenger today [Re: moparniac] #892522
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are those numbers with you in the seat?

i wouldn't worry about the horsepower, your making at least 500, 600 if you put it on cabs dyno







Both of Cabs dyno, once the Studka was calibrated. The air here in central Oregon with all the trees, makes lots of power All you doubters will be in big trouble when I come east on my next tour, look for the really fast blue Duster Any of you fast guys from east of the rockies coming to the MATS race If so I will make sure and put one of my good motors in the Duster for that race


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Re: scaled challenger today [Re: sixpackgut] #892523
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Still doubting that 3,340 pound '72 Challenger of mine?

Re: scaled challenger today [Re: dustergirl340] #892524
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Still doubting that 3,340 pound '72 Challenger of mine?




well, my car has glass bumpers and hood. front bumber brackets cut to hell. willwood brakes, light weight buckets,heater box gone, aluminum heads, intake, radiator, water pump. door beams removed, rear window regulaters removed, emergency brake removed and when i race i always have the tank full, that would add at least another 100lbs

so yes i am


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Re: scaled challenger today [Re: sixpackgut] #892525
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For comparison, when I weighed mine on a truck scale...it was 3480bs without me with full interior, AC box and a full tank of gas, cage, heavy AAR fiberglass bolt on hood. But no telling if that scale is right either.

Re: scaled challenger today [Re: sixpackgut] #892526
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I weighed my duster on a Oregon state truck scale, it weighed 3550 lbs or so with me in it and a full tank of gas. I reweighed it at Las Vegas two months later with no changes to the car from the truck scales and it weighed 3150 lbs with me out of the car, that didn't add up I have since reweighed it on indididual certified 1000 lb platform scales and it weighs right at what the Las Vegas scales said it weighed truck scales are not real accurate at the lower readings is what I have been told by several weigh masters I now weigh myself on the scales before weighing the car to check the accuracy of the scales Your corner weights are normal for most Mopars, you do have better weight distrubution on the right rear than my car does , I'm jealous

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Re: scaled challenger today [Re: Cab_Burge] #892527
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Fuel weighs 6.6 lbs/gallon using a sp of .8...where water weighs 8.33 lbs/gallon.
Lighter than I would have thought. What fiberglass and weight reduction have you done?


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Re: scaled challenger today [Re: sixpackgut] #892528
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Still doubting that 3,340 pound '72 Challenger of mine?




well, my car has glass bumpers and hood. front bumber brackets cut to hell. willwood brakes, light weight buckets,heater box gone, aluminum heads, intake, radiator, water pump. door beams removed, rear window regulaters removed, emergency brake removed and when i race i always have the tank full, that would add at least another 100lbs

so yes i am


I have a friend who races NHRA stock, he disassembled a 1971 Challenger and prep it to his best abiltiys to remove all unneeded parts and still be NHRA legal, no acid dipping He races it as a 1970 T/A, that car weighs under 3200 lbs with a 340 and a VFN T/A fibreglas hood wet My old 1970 Hemi Cuda 4 speed car hat to weigh 3440 lbs minumum with a half tank of gas wet with no driver with heavy Cragar SS wheels, no roll bar back then with full interior,carpet and heater box and no radio


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Re: scaled challenger today [Re: Bob_Coomer] #892529
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Fuel weighs 6.6 lbs/gallon using a sp of .8...where water weighs 8.33 lbs/gallon.
Lighter than I would have thought. What fiberglass and weight reduction have you done?





gas is only 6.6? i thought water was 10 and gas was about 8. damn. i listed my weight reduction above


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Re: scaled challenger today [Re: sixpackgut] #892530
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Still doubting that 3,340 pound '72 Challenger of mine?




well, my car has glass bumpers and hood. front bumber brackets cut to hell. willwood brakes, light weight buckets,heater box gone, aluminum heads, intake, radiator, water pump. door beams removed, rear window regulaters removed, emergency brake removed and when i race i always have the tank full, that would add at least another 100lbs

so yes i am


Dustergirl is that a stock body type car/race?






Sixpackgut my car seem 2b setup pretty close.Except i have a 8 gal. cell and i still retain my rear regulators.Last time i weight in at the local scale it read 3125/without......3350/with me

Re: scaled challenger today [Re: Cab_Burge] #892531
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truck scales are not real accurate at the lower readings is what I have been told by several weigh masters




I wondered about truck scales. They are calibrated in the upper ranges, much like a calibrated gauge, usually accurate in the upper 1/3 of their range IIRC .

Re: scaled challenger today [Re: justinp61] #892532
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FWIW we've scaled ours on the local truck scales, at the track scales and had them on the electronic 4 pad type. All around the same


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Re: scaled challenger today [Re: racerx] #892533
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I had mine weighed at a scrap yard AND at the drag strip...both places they weighed the same.

Re: scaled challenger today [Re: dustergirl340] #892534
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I had mine weighed at a scrap yard AND at the drag strip...both places they weighed the same.




I had a '72 small block Challenger and I seem to recall it weighed right around that too.


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