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Super Victor Max Wedge intake with Edelbrock Victor Max #892316
12/31/10 12:38 PM 12/31/10 12:38 PM
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Who is using the Edelbrock Super Victor Max Wedge intake with Edelbrock Victor Max Wedge cylinder heads I’m playing with the idea of taking off my X ram intake next season and running a single plane. My engine builder told me I could use one of his racing carburetors so I’d only have to pay for the intake.

Here is my build, 505 pump gas motor with 10.75:1 compression.
Custom ground Bullet roller, 640 lift
Hand ported MW Victor heads with 1.6 T&D rockers.
MW Rick Allison cross ram.
835 Holley carbs done by Ken Jones.
2”TTi’s
Motor made 730hp @ 5700 and 730lbs torque @ 4500 rpm on Mobil 93oct pump gas
Re: Super Victor Max Wedge intake with Edelbrock Victor Max [Re: sjs64polara] #892317
12/31/10 01:43 PM 12/31/10 01:43 PM
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You'll pick up 50 hp if not more.
Re: Super Victor Max Wedge intake with Edelbrock Victor Max [Re: sjs64polara] #892318
12/31/10 02:58 PM 12/31/10 02:58 PM
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Stock block? Be careful, you'll be pushing the limit...

Re: Super Victor Max Wedge intake with Edelbrock Victor Max [Re: sjs64polara] #892319
12/31/10 03:10 PM 12/31/10 03:10 PM
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Here is my build, 505 pump gas motor with 10.75:1 compression.
Motor made 730hp @ 5700 and 730lbs torque @ 4500 rpm on Mobil 93oct pump gas

Those are nice numbers. What ET/mph and weight is the car running?

If you are running a factory cross ram intake, the Super Victor will be a big improvement and allow more rpm.

1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: Super Victor Max Wedge intake with Edelbrock Victor Max [Re: 440Jim] #892320
12/31/10 04:59 PM 12/31/10 04:59 PM
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Here is my build, 505 pump gas motor with 10.75:1 compression.
Motor made 730hp @ 5700 and 730lbs torque @ 4500 rpm on Mobil 93oct pump gas

Those are nice numbers. What ET/mph and weight is the car running?

If you are running a factory cross ram intake, the Super Victor will be a big improvement and allow more rpm. [/quote

The car weighs 4070lbs and runs 10.90@122mph. Let's say I have problems with excessive wheel spin. Travis and Scott from Calverts have watched several videos this fall and give me laundry list of items to update and try. I also got some great insight from Mike at MR2 Performance, he was very helpful. It should be an interesting 2011.

Thanks for the kind words about the build. Yes, I’m running a stock type intake from A&A. The heads were hand ported but had a lot of work done to them. I knew someday I'd change the intake manifold so I wanted to be prepared for the future. The heads were image scanned then the data was imported to modeling software. My company builds proto-type and production tooling to the auto engine industry so I have access to pretty cool technologies. I then analyzed the data and wall thicknesses. I informed my 65 year old head porter about thin spots and profiles, then the hacking and grinding started. I think we did ok, no welding or sleeving was done

Re: Super Victor Max Wedge intake with Edelbrock Victor Max [Re: sjs64polara] #892321
12/31/10 06:46 PM 12/31/10 06:46 PM
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The tuned runner length (I think 15" IIRC) of the Max Wdge intake was designed for a 426 motor with maybe 260cfm of airflow, on a 505" motor it is clearly going to limit the RPM peak torque occurs and (as a result) also limit the top end HP (similar to how too small a collector and/or too long a runner length on a header does). You will sacrifice some torque below your present peak torque RPM and the shorter (as also less restrictive) runner will shift the Torque peak RPM upwards and will proportionally raise the peak HP RPM (with the same heads and cam). That all sounds great on paper but remember if your stall and gearing are more or less optimized for your present set up, you may need proportionally more stall/flash and/or gear to get the new combo working efficiently with the new/higher "sweet spot".

Cross sections and runner lengths are in a way similar to barrel lengths, trajectory angles and resultant distances/drops in ballistics,Change one variable and you have effected the others. There is an optimum length/cross section/tuned length that charges the cylinder for a given desired port velocity for your cylinder volume.

Long runners are typically not optimum for long stroke motors with good heads and adequate compression if higher peak RPM horsepower is your goal, at least they never have been on any motor I've worked on. Too long a runner is more or less equivalent to too small a cross section above peak torque RPM...it acts as a restriction to airflow which obviously starts to limit HP by increasing pressure differential.

I'd like to compare a SV to the Indy-3 on a dyno but even still I suspect a longer runner/smaller cross section design may help a heavier B or E body combination than it would a lighter (say A body car) car with the same stall/flash and gearing.

Last edited by Streetwize; 12/31/10 07:01 PM.
Re: Super Victor Max Wedge intake with Edelbrock Victor Max [Re: sjs64polara] #892322
12/31/10 07:17 PM 12/31/10 07:17 PM
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Who is using the Edelbrock Super Victor Max Wedge intake with Edelbrock Victor Max Wedge cylinder heads I’m playing with the idea of taking off my X ram intake next season and running a single plane. My engine builder told me I could use one of his racing carburetors so I’d only have to pay for the intake.

Here is my build, 505 pump gas motor with 10.75:1 compression.
Custom ground Bullet roller, 640 lift
Hand ported MW Victor heads with 1.6 T&D rockers.
MW Rick Allison cross ram.
835 Holley carbs done by Ken Jones.
2”TTi’s
Motor made 730hp @ 5700 and 730lbs torque @ 4500 rpm on Mobil 93oct pump gas



I have the SV on Max Wedge Victors. Here is a link to my build. Made 768hp @ 6500 and 683 ft lb @ 5000. I re-used my mild solid roller in this motor, .630 lift and 264/268 @ .050 which is .700 with the 1.7 T&D's.

505 motor build

Dyno numbers

Best to date is a 9.92 @ 135 in my 3550 lb coronet.
Haven't changed anything since the dyno session, same jetting and timing.
Re: Super Victor Max Wedge intake with Edelbrock Victor Max [Re: G_bob] #892323
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Thanks for the links
Great car...... I dig yellow rides


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