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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
[Re: BigDaddy440]
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The blasting job is finished. I requested that the thinnest sheet metal remain painted. I mainly wanted to expose problem areas and areas that are a pain to use a DA sander on. Also my body & paint man was afraid that an inexperienced blaster operator might damage the thinner sheet metal areas. This car is nearly rust free, it's quite amazing. But given it's history (not driven much) it makes sense. The last picture shows the biggest rust damaged area on the car. There's a couple other areas, but they're even smaller than this. Being that the car was a race car there were several little modifications that are plain to see. First you'll notice all the gold colored brazing on the underside of the car. When I fist noticed this (months ago) I thought there were some possible panel replacements, but I don't think so. After seeing the other small modifications that were completed to stiffen the car, it became apparent that at some point all the body seems has been tacked up in an effort to strengthen up the car. Also there are no indications that any of sheet metal / floors had ever been removed. If you look near the rear seat area inside the car, you'll see a reinforcement modification that was completed...effective? not sure. I'm also not sure if it will interfere with the factory rear seat...looks like it might. There are a few other interesting modifications that I'll need to reverse, roll cage etc, but for the most part it's an incredibly solid car. pics:     My plan is currently to have all the metal work completed on the car and have the engine bay, underside, door jams, and trunk painted factory Plymouth Ralley Green. Then take the car back home and install brake lines, fuel lines, gas tank, and install the new / rebuilt front and rear suspension. Once its a roller again, then it will go back to the shop for the final body work and paint job. Any thoughts about my plans? Suggestions are appreciated. -dan
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
[Re: BigDaddy440]
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01/07/11 02:46 AM
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The blasting job is finished. I requested that the thinnest sheet metal remain painted. I mainly wanted to expose problem areas and areas that are a pain to use a DA sander on. Also my body & paint man was afraid that an inexperienced blaster operator might damage the thinner sheet metal areas.
This car is nearly rust free, it's quite amazing. But given it's history (not driven much) it makes sense. The last picture shows the biggest rust damaged area on the car. There's a couple other areas, but they're even smaller than this.
Being that the car was a race car there were several little modifications that are plain to see. First you'll notice all the gold colored brazing on the underside of the car. When I fist noticed this (months ago) I thought there were some possible panel replacements, but I don't think so. After seeing the other small modifications that were completed to stiffen the car, it became apparent that at some point all the body seems has been tacked up in an effort to strengthen up the car. Also there are no indications that any of sheet metal / floors had ever been removed. If you look near the rear seat area inside the car, you'll see a reinforcement modification that was completed...effective? not sure. I'm also not sure if it will interfere with the factory rear seat...looks like it might. There are a few other interesting modifications that I'll need to reverse, roll cage etc, but for the most part it's an incredibly solid car.
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My plan is currently to have all the metal work completed on the car and have the engine bay, underside, door jams, and trunk painted factory Plymouth Ralley Green. Then take the car back home and install brake lines, fuel lines, gas tank, and install the new / rebuilt front and rear suspension. Once its a roller again, then it will go back to the shop for the final body work and paint job. Any thoughts about my plans? Suggestions are appreciated.
-dan
Do yourself and paint the whole car at the same time. Its not worth mismatched jambs, engine bay, overspray on the suspension and all the other headaches associated with painting a roller. Trust me.
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
[Re: BigDaddy440]
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01/07/11 03:04 PM
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Dan, you have to be a lot more careful during assembly if you paint everything separate. But the final job looks sooo much better. U can paint the car whole but you will not get in the cracks and edges of the panels without running the s$!t out of the paint. I have done it both ways. The progress looks good so far. Eric
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
[Re: BigDaddy440]
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01/07/11 03:57 PM
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Looks good so far. When I did my car, I had the completed shell painted then assembled it. You definetly need to be carefull on completely painted car. But that method is what the plant did when the car was originally built. If you buy all the paint at once and do the underside, engine bay and jambs, you could probably leave the outside final paint work until the drive train is installed and the interior is complete. Make sure you are tapping off the right things before the final spray.
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
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01/07/11 04:45 PM
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Dan
I certainly apologize for coming off rude with my comment. Please check the date stamp, it was quite early and I only had a very short time to comment before getting my kids out of bed and starting our day...
Ok first off...Your time is just as valuable as your money. The first thing to remember when doing a restoration is that you don't want to do things twice.
I can guarantee you that no matter who the painter is or how good they think they can mask a car, you're going to get sanding dust, primer over spray, paint over spray and all other kinds of crap on your nice new clean fresh parts that you've already mounted. You're going to spend more time and effort RE-DETAILING all your components.
Second of all..."Spring Green" is a metallic colour and the car should be all painted together as mentioned.
Also the engine/transmission should be installed from the bottom, meaning that if you've gone ahead and installed the K Frame already, you'll have to remove it again..
And if it's a "money thing" like you have to save up for the final paint, then you're better off concentrating all your financial efforts in one direction at a time. For instance, hold off doing the suspension and drive train until the paint is 100% complete. Then as you can afford other components you can get them done and install them right away.
For example...picture having a complete painted shell in your garage and nothing else prepared....You can get the heater box and pedals done - install them, you can get the dash, steering column done - install them, etc...etc...
instead if you get those things done first, they just sit around collecting dust waiting for a car that may never get painted...
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
[Re: anlauto]
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01/07/11 06:00 PM
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Dan
I certainly apologize for coming off rude with my comment...
I appreciate that Allen. I also appreciate the information you provided above, it makes sense, and I'll be taking all of this into consideration. As you know this is a huge undertaking and being that I've never had a car torn down to this extent, I'm still learning.
-Dan
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
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01/07/11 10:14 PM
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Hey the car looks... bare, really bare. That's what freaks me out, you got to get it some kind of primer like fast and you don't have plan in place yet?  I would have done the outside with plastic while I was doing the bottem. And then you could get the whole thing in primer all at once. Rust never sleeps, nowhere. Good luck with it, I hope you don't leave it bare long.
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