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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
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Muscle Car Restorations had done several A12s. Though they are not concourse, their photo documentation is something I like to look at often to see how the dis-assembly/paint/assembly process takes place. Here is my A12. the jambs, doors jambs, trunk jambs, interior were painted. Doors, fenders, trunk, aligned, then the outside painted. Metallics are a little trickier to shoot because of the metallic sagging a mismatch that can happen if the door/etc are not hung properly prior to paint. http://www.musclecarrestorations.com/cars.php
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
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01/07/11 11:57 PM
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Big Daddy, I have been on this site and others for 7 years. Since my car was raced most of it's life I can tell you IF the cage was still in it like yours, I personally would LEAVE it in. Looks quite coool and very clean in the condition it is in the photo's. For me it has Day 2 resto written all over it. But my car was put back to a street car and cage was cut out long before I got it so I have decided not to put a new cage back. Its all a matter of personal choice, but I think you will find that there are plently of factory style resto's out there, and frankly, as raced has more appeal to me and others borred with the abundance of "correct cars". To each his own, best luck it would be nice anyway you go.  ed B
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69 A12 road runner ,Q5, post coupe, 4 speed, former Drag car restored to "Driver" condition in the early 90's, Showing some Patina. SS/E Track Record Holder 1980 10.40 @ 130mph
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
[Re: domingo]
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01/08/11 02:08 AM
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your bodyman knows what he says when he told you to keep them off the exterior sheetmetal. Blasting warps. Period. Even if somebody tells me they can blast without warping I say "no thanks" I wont risk warping nice original sheetmetal. Id rather spend some time sanding than trying to fix wavy panels afterwards and having to use bondo (noooo!!!noo! nooooo!!!!).
Domingo. if i can blast a coke can and not warp it i can blast your sheetmetal. there are different medias for different jobs! I do not blast equipment and structural steel i blast vehicles. Might want to research some more options before saying all blasting warps.
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
[Re: BigDaddy440]
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01/08/11 01:27 PM
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My plan is currently to have all the metal work completed on the car and have the engine bay, underside, door jams, and trunk painted factory Plymouth Ralley Green. Then take the car back home and install brake lines, fuel lines, gas tank, and install the new / rebuilt front and rear suspension. Once its a roller again, then it will go back to the shop for the final body work and paint job. Any thoughts about my plans? Suggestions are appreciated.
-dan
I had a Rallye Green Road Runner that was painted the way you are suggesting. This green is a tough color to match. I was never happy with the match of the body to the underhood, inside trunk, etc.. It was slightly off. You may be a lot happier getting the body painted all at once, including fenders, doors, etc.. I am not a body man or painter, so my suggestion is just based on the results of one of my cars.
'69 Hemi Charger 500, ‘70 U code Challenger R/T (These and a bunch others at www.dkowal426.com) P.J. O'Rouke: "The old car ran perfectly, right up until it didn't."
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
[Re: Challenger 1]
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01/08/11 10:12 PM
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NOT to change the subject but i was wondering if you can tell me it the reinforcements on the floor hump for the snubber area are factory for an A-12 car? Nice job by the way getting it clean .
1969 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Superbee
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
[Re: chrisf]
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01/09/11 11:36 AM
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your bodyman knows what he says when he told you to keep them off the exterior sheetmetal. Blasting warps. Period. Even if somebody tells me they can blast without warping I say "no thanks" I wont risk warping nice original sheetmetal. Id rather spend some time sanding than trying to fix wavy panels afterwards and having to use bondo (noooo!!!noo! nooooo!!!!).
Domingo. if i can blast a coke can and not warp it i can blast your sheetmetal. there are different medias for different jobs! I do not blast equipment and structural steel i blast vehicles. Might want to research some more options before saying all blasting warps.
Is that an empty can? If so, I would be impressed.
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
[Re: domingo]
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01/09/11 12:41 PM
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your bodyman knows what he says when he told you to keep them off the exterior sheetmetal. Blasting warps. Period. Even if somebody tells me they can blast without warping I say "no thanks" I wont risk warping nice original sheetmetal. Id rather spend some time sanding than trying to fix wavy panels afterwards and having to use bondo (noooo!!!noo! nooooo!!!!).
Domingo. if i can blast a coke can and not warp it i can blast your sheetmetal. there are different medias for different jobs! I do not blast equipment and structural steel i blast vehicles. Might want to research some more options before saying all blasting warps.
Is that an empty can? If so, I would be impressed.
Yes it's an empty can... question is was the can empty the whole time it was being blasted.... Not just while you touch around the pull tab...... I've seen those cans at blast company displays, I've also seen them warp panels... Not as bad as the typical sand blaster but stuff your see trying to block a straight panel that takes extra priming... That just happens to be linear in the same direction as the blasting was preformed...
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
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01/09/11 12:48 PM
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your bodyman knows what he says when he told you to keep them off the exterior sheetmetal. Blasting warps. Period. Even if somebody tells me they can blast without warping I say "no thanks" I wont risk warping nice original sheetmetal. Id rather spend some time sanding than trying to fix wavy panels afterwards and having to use bondo (noooo!!!noo! nooooo!!!!).
Domingo. if i can blast a coke can and not warp it i can blast your sheetmetal. there are different medias for different jobs! I do not blast equipment and structural steel i blast vehicles. Might want to research some more options before saying all blasting warps.
Is that an empty can? If so, I would be impressed.
Yes it's an empty can... question is was the can empty the whole time it was being blasted.... Not just while you touch around the pull tab...... I've seen those cans at blast company displays, I've also seen them warp panels... Not as bad as the typical sand blaster but stuff your see trying to block a straight panel that takes extra priming... That just happens to be linear in the same direction as the blasting was preformed...
I am not located in the US, not I have seen all the blasting equipment available, but I can tell you I have tried a few different guns at very low pressure and have blasted with sand, silica, soda, and plastic pellets....and everytime I did notice some warping. The worse is when you blast a panel thats FLAT. That can is cylindrical...if it was a 24 gauge STEEL can I could probably blast it at low pressure and not cause any warping. I really doubt an empty ALUMINUM can could be blasted without warping!!!!
For instance....I would NEVER NEVER EVER blast a 68-69 Charger trunk lid no matter what equipment you use. It WILL warp. Period. and there is no way on fixing one of those once its warped....the underbrace has no openings so there is no way of fixing the skin once it warps...once it warps either its junk or you have to do some BONDO MAGIC . 
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Re: 69 RR off to the media blasters (pics inside)
[Re: gtx6970]
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01/09/11 01:01 PM
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guess this is a never ending debate. My personal preference is only to blast floors, jambs, bracing, etc. I prefer to leave the exterior body skin alone and strip it by hand using moslty chemical stripers and all sanding by hand or using an orbital sander...disc sanders also take away metal and scratch it bad...I stay away from those. Thats the way I DO IT and I have great results. Works for me that way! I dont like RISKING damaging good original sheetmetal, Id rather play it safe and spend a bit more time!!!
I am talking about my own cars done at my shop and my own first hand experience. Like I said, I dont have all the equipment available in the US at my disposal but I have tried a few things...and from my experience I stay away from blasting exterior sheetmetal skin.
I was at the Nats this year and there were a lot of nice cars there, but there were only a few that had what I would call "a perfect paint job" -although we all know there is no such thing-. These were usually the higher end cars or cars done by high end shops. Most cars on the field were really nice cars but the paint jobs were not something I would call perfect.
Ken Mosier's (the Finder Details) had really nice paint jobs...I wonder if he blasts the outer sheetmetal skin.
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