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wideband in a street car #888776
12/26/10 06:34 PM
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Anybody here run one of these
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-5678/

Are they worth the money?

Thanks
Kevin

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Re: wide band in a street car [Re: superbee500] #888777
12/26/10 06:37 PM
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dont waste ur money,fast sells a nice one,its small and u dont need a lap top,its a few more bucks for sure but awesome to have!

Re: wideband in a street car [Re: superbee500] #888778
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Re: wideband in a street car [Re: superbee500] #888779
12/26/10 07:54 PM
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I use the AEM gauge. The AutoMeter setup probably works just fine also.

Re: wideband in a street car [Re: superbee500] #888780
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no its not that one,it's innovative LM-2 its a kit with a hand held logger that u dont need a lap top comp to use it,i welded a bung on the high side of the x part of my exhaust..its like 350 bucks.the one u posted is good,if when u blast in ur car u can see it.

Re: wideband in a street car [Re: fishy340] #888781
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PS U DID SAY A STREET CAR...THE 1 U WERE LOOKIN AT WILL BE FINE! my bad i thought it was monster street/strip

Re: wideband in a street car [Re: superbee500] #888782
12/26/10 08:15 PM
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I run a LM-1 but when I am done testing I take it
out and plug the pipe so I dont kill the sensor

Re: wideband in a street car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #888783
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smart man mr p,i dont care what the rest of the board says about ya! j/k

Re: wideband in a street car [Re: fishy340] #888784
12/26/10 08:22 PM
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Quote:

PS U DID SAY A STREET CAR...THE 1 U WERE LOOKIN AT WILL BE FINE! my bad i thought it was monster street/strip




Its a 10 second street strip car, Not a monster by todays standards.

Thanks for your help

Kevin


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Re: wideband in a street car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #888785
12/26/10 08:38 PM
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Quote:

I run a LM-1 but when I am done testing I take it
out and plug the pipe so I dont kill the sensor





Ran mine in the 5.7 for close to four years and 50,000+ miles....never affected the sensor

Rickster

Re: wideband in a street car [Re: rickstershemi] #888786
12/26/10 08:43 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

I run a LM-1 but when I am done testing I take it
out and plug the pipe so I dont kill the sensor





Ran mine in the 5.7 for close to four years and 50,000+ miles....never affected the sensor

Rickster




Ran mine for less than 50 passes and it quit
so now I take it out... call me paranoid

Re: wideband in a street car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #888787
12/26/10 08:53 PM
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i run the lm-1 on the street. It uses a bosch sensor thats for a 1.8T VW that can be had at any parts store, plus the boschs come with a 1 year warrant so just get a new one if it ever goes up or replace it every year. the only problem i have had when it eats a o2 sensor is a super rich condition in the 9.0afr range or running a lot of race gas which if you are goin to run race gas all the time get the ngk wideband...all the honda guys that run c16 all the time run them. Or if you already have the lm-1 get the ngk sensor for it. just my 2 cents


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Re: wideband in a street car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #888788
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I run an autometer wideband.. I think its a good tool to have for tuning and no I dont have a laptop! I normally run my engine at 1100 but was playing around here with my SV1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V74cnr_Xjl4


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Re: wideband in a street car [Re: moparniac] #888789
12/26/10 09:00 PM
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I put an innovate lc-1 on my car with an analog gauge. Nice tuning toy on the street but no datalogging capability unless I hook it up to my efi controller and datalog with that.

Re: wideband in a street car [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #888790
12/26/10 10:14 PM
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well then if you have the mazooma get the innovate lm 1 or new is the LM-2,THERE AWESOME

Re: wideband in a street car [Re: superbee500] #888791
12/26/10 11:13 PM
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I've had the LM-1 with the RPM kit for a couple of years now. Very happy with the results. It will teach you an amazing amount about your carb. I had thought that I knew a little bit about carbs, until I spent a little time tuning with the LM-1. I really didn't know squat. If you choose to take the time and experiment, then the wide band O2s will teach you a lot about the circuits in your carb.

But I think it will take a while to get the hang of tuning with it. And if you are serious about tuning, then I think you will need logging capability. The A/F is moving around all the time and quickly at that. The data logging allows you to analyze graphs rather than trying to watch the guage while driving.


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Re: wideband in a street car [Re: DaveRS23] #888792
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AEM on my turbo car..

Re: wideband in a street car [Re: Dos Snails] #888793
12/27/10 02:03 PM
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I have had lc1 and aem. innovate products are crap. very very ground sensitive. they make you jump through hoops to make the thing work. aem is perfect. 2 wire hookup. pwr and grd. thats it. i had my aem on my turbo car on ethanol that lives or dies by the wideband (11.0Cr and 20psi)and i wouldnt trust anything else but aem.

Re: wideband in a street car [Re: superbee500] #888794
12/27/10 02:14 PM
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FST-170634/?rtype=10

I plan on buying two of these before Spring time. I don't need the data logging and I just want one in each exhaust pipe for tuning.


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Re: wideband in a street car [Re: YO7_A66] #888795
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I bought one of these http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FST-170402/

I got a deal on a new one for a little over 300.00 shipped from one of the car forums. My friends running nitrous on there street/strip cars like them that's for sure.


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