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Re: K MEMBER [Re: W9 Dart] #888266
12/30/10 07:26 PM
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Looks good Nice to hear it's been tested a bit. What does it cost?


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Re: K MEMBER [Re: W9 Dart] #888267
12/30/10 11:40 PM
12/30/10 11:40 PM
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Tory, TShell, Stated, K Member, Check it out!!! He also stated he appreciates All the comments good or bad. Remember He said K Member Check it out!!

Well, as requested after checking it out the best I can through pics only.

Id say it looks pretty beefy. I like all the extra angles of reinforcement. In fact it may be more heavy duty then needed. This K Member actually looks more complicated to build then some of the others out there.

On the Whole K frame from the pics, the only thing that jumps out at me is the steering arm/balljoint combo.

It may be fine, but I cant tell how the steering arm is attached to the Ball joint portion of the tube. Is it welded to the End or does it run the Whole length??

This piece in particular has had strength problems in othe K frames here in the past. While the K frame itself looks plenty beefy, Im not to sure about this piece. "Let Vic Bloomer/SST340 show you some pics" Broken, from another unit.

I think its fine to be inquisitive of a new product. Especially of a product as important as a K Frame that does so much with front steering geometry and control.

Please excuse those who have experienced Nitemares and failures in the past with aftermarket K frames.

Dont expect people too Swoon over a New piece, Allow them to be inquisitive and cautious.

As I stated earlier, I appreciate All new products that someone is willing to take the time and expense to bring to the Mopar crowd.

Bring it on! And Tory, Thanks for asking, Check it out!! mike

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Re: K MEMBER [Re: Sport440] #888268
12/31/10 12:12 AM
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cant wait to get mine [ hint hint hint] tshell lol

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Re: K MEMBER [Re: daron] #888269
12/31/10 12:22 AM
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cant wait to get mine [ hint hint hint] tshell lol




Right after me! lol

Re: K MEMBER [Re: W9 Dart] #888270
12/31/10 04:11 PM
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naw i am special lol

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Re: K MEMBER [Re: daron] #888271
12/31/10 07:05 PM
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Have to agree on the ackerman issue, and to me just looks like alot of the welding is undercut. Ie: the plates welded to the control arms, the reinforcing tubes welded to the main crossmember

Re: K MEMBER [Re: wicked] #888272
12/31/10 07:12 PM
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Have to agree on the ackerman issue, and to me just looks like alot of the welding is undercut. Ie: the plates welded to the control arms, the reinforcing tubes welded to the main crossmember




I wouldn't say undercut... Looks like not enough fill or should put in a smaller weld that doesn't burn the edge. At least from what I can see on the blurry pics...

Otherwise looks decent to me..


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Re: K MEMBER [Re: DemonDust] #888273
12/31/10 07:25 PM
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Have to agree on the ackerman issue, and to me just looks like alot of the welding is undercut. Ie: the plates welded to the control arms, the reinforcing tubes welded to the main crossmember




I wouldn't say undercut... Looks like not enough fill or should put in a smaller weld that doesn't burn the edge. At least from what I can see on the blurry pics...

Otherwise looks decent to me..




Yes, more fill, appears he only has half the thickness of the material welded

Re: K MEMBER [Re: wicked] #888274
01/01/11 01:22 AM
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COST????? anyone or website to go look at it better


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Re: K MEMBER [Re: W9 Dart] #888275
01/01/11 07:27 AM
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W9/Jason, after further study, of pics 3,4,and 5., they show some serious weld weakness issues, IMO

Focus on pic #5

This K Frame does have potential though.

But not as shown, IF the pics are correct. mike

Re: K MEMBER [Re: Sport440] #888276
01/01/11 07:38 AM
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does anyone have a link(video) that you guys talk about to bobs k member in action?


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Re: K MEMBER [Re: moparniac] #888277
01/01/11 10:59 AM
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GO BUCKS !!!!!!!
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Is this the same " Tory " that did front end work on Brett Millers 65 dart

Re: K MEMBER [Re: 340RICK] #888278
01/01/11 11:21 AM
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Yep, same Tory! I was working on his 65, had same shake issues as Bob when he started. Kept working at it, made alot of changes/progress with it. Went through all the same problems, ackerman, backup, wheels would tow in and shake
at 100 mph. The new piece I had at 140 mph, no shake, 3.5 caster, handles well. Still working to improve everything.

Re: K MEMBER [Re: Sport440] #888279
01/01/11 11:29 AM
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you could say the same thing about bobs stuff makes a good product but the welding sucks

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01/01/11 11:50 AM
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you could say the same thing about bobs stuff makes a good product but the welding sucks




bobs kit has crap weld jobs?


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Re: K MEMBER [Re: kotacars] #888281
01/01/11 11:57 AM
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I will have to respectfully disagree with that statement.I have 2 here and they are top quality.

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Re: K MEMBER [Re: moparniac] #888282
01/01/11 12:54 PM
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you could say the same thing about bobs stuff makes a good product but the welding sucks




bobs kit has crap weld jobs?






I'd like to see this, I can't believe that statement is true.....


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Re: K MEMBER [Re: DemonDust] #888283
01/01/11 01:28 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

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you could say the same thing about bobs stuff makes a good product but the welding sucks




bobs kit has crap weld jobs?






I'd like to see this, I can't believe that statement is true.....




It isnt... I've seen Bobs welds

Re: K MEMBER [Re: MR_P_BODY] #888284
01/01/11 01:52 PM
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I pedaled the car to a 9.75 @134 MPH and change.
She ran straight and true , not a whimper.
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Re: K MEMBER [Re: wicked] #888285
01/01/11 03:45 PM
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Yes, more fill, appears he only has half the thickness of the material welded




To be honest, that's the first thing I noticed from the close-up pictures but I didn't say anything. This is very common, I've seen it in aftermarket control arms, k-frames, and roll bars and cages. For structural components such as these the welds need to be engineered in material and geometry just like anything else. This simply means that the weld material and thickness need to be chosen to handle the loads and stresses they are, or might be, exposed to.

In these days of the internet you have to provide good (and pretty) pictures of your product to gain market acceptance. This need for prettiness hasn't necessarily been good for quality. I strongly encourage anyone thinking of making this kind of product to pick up a basic Mechanical Engineering text with a section on weld design and read that section until you understand it. I know, that's not gonna happen.

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