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Titanium question #873230 12/06/10 09:02 PM 12/06/10 09:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 273 Edmonton alberta Canada M mr. 63plymouth OP enthusiast
mr. 63plymouth OP enthusiast M Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 273 Edmonton alberta Canada	Hi all, just wondering what the min. thickness of titanium is suppose to be for the sheild between the trunk of a car and the back seat area? (NHRA) Hope someone could help me!! Thanx. 6342167-HPIM34773.jpg (116 downloads)

Re: Titanium question [Re: mr. 63plymouth] #873231 12/06/10 09:20 PM 12/06/10 09:20 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 729 Lebanon,IN M mr2performance super stock
mr2performance super stock M Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 729 Lebanon,IN	Do it at least 032 or don't worry about it cause they'll never check it Mike MR2PERFORMANCE RACE CARS 765 483 9371

Re: Titanium question [Re: mr. 63plymouth] #873232 12/06/10 10:45 PM 12/06/10 10:45 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA	I would use the same thickness as steel. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Titanium question [Re: mr. 63plymouth] #873233 12/07/10 01:34 AM 12/07/10 01:34 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,093 Long Beach, CA Mike Swann super stock
Mike Swann super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,093 Long Beach, CA	Expensive choice of material! 8.30's @3400 lbs

Re: Titanium question [Re: Mike Swann] #873234 12/07/10 01:44 AM 12/07/10 01:44 AM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 242 Upland, California Spode enthusiast
Spode enthusiast Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 242 Upland, California	Quote: Expensive choice of material! cheaper than unobtainium

Re: Titanium question [Re: Mike Swann] #873235 12/07/10 02:18 AM 12/07/10 02:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 273 Edmonton alberta Canada M mr. 63plymouth OP enthusiast
mr. 63plymouth OP enthusiast M Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 273 Edmonton alberta Canada	I agree,but I kinda dont like your typical alum. race car stuff!!!!Different is good!!!! 6342884-HPIM34773.jpg (94 downloads)

Re: Titanium question [Re: mr. 63plymouth] #873236 12/07/10 02:21 AM 12/07/10 02:21 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Play it as alum... IF a tech guy were to look at it he would see it as alum... JMO

Re: Titanium question [Re: MR_P_BODY] #873237 12/07/10 08:06 AM 12/07/10 08:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,136 Melbourne , Australia LA360 master
LA360 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,136 Melbourne , Australia	What benefit is there running titanium in this application? Alan Jones

Re: Titanium question [Re: LA360] #873238 12/07/10 01:17 PM 12/07/10 01:17 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,206 New York polyspheric master
polyspheric master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,206 New York	You get to tell people about it, that's why I use plutonium. Boffin Emeritus

Re: Titanium question [Re: mr. 63plymouth] #873239 12/07/10 01:54 PM 12/07/10 01:54 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,141 Phoenix,Az. H hemicop super stock
hemicop super stock H Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,141 Phoenix,Az.	Quote: Hi all, just wondering what the min. thickness of titanium is suppose to be for the sheild between the trunk of a car and the back seat area? (NHRA) Hope someone could help me!! Thanx. Unless you have a connection, titanium is gonna cost you several hundred dollars, at least for a piece like that. Why not just use alum. & cover it with 1/16in plastic ($8.00), carpet or thin speakerboard (it'll look factory). When the tech guy inpects you, show him the piece from the rear so he can verify it's alum. & leave it at that....

Re: Titanium question [Re: polyspheric] #873240 12/07/10 02:07 PM 12/07/10 02:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden 1 1Fast340 master
1Fast340 master 1 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden	yep titanium is kind of expensive. dont forget its horrible to cut or drill,welding it should be fine as long as its not space or military spec welds required. dont have alot of excperience with it but i can tell you its a beutifull metal to bend in tubeform with the right tooling

Re: Titanium question [Re: mr. 63plymouth] #873241 12/07/10 02:13 PM 12/07/10 02:13 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,867 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,867 Ontario, Canada	Quote: Different is good!!!! Not when there's no reasonable explanation other than bragging rights. Unless you're the fastest guy in your class and winning every event, this kind of expenditure will only get all the other racers laughing at you.

Re: Titanium question [Re: Stanton] #873242 12/07/10 03:18 PM 12/07/10 03:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	Quote: Quote: Different is good!!!! Not when there's no reasonable explanation other than bragging rights. Unless you're the fastest guy in your class and winning every event, this kind of expenditure will only get all the other racers laughing at you. You can always place a placard next on which you can explain the reasoning is to people that you have a titanium sheet between the trunk and back seat but do to it's location it cannot be seen. home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: Titanium question [Re: Stanton] #873243 12/07/10 03:35 PM 12/07/10 03:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 273 Edmonton alberta Canada M mr. 63plymouth OP enthusiast
mr. 63plymouth OP enthusiast M Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 273 Edmonton alberta Canada	Holy!!! Just ask for a QUESTION on here and this is what I get from some of you!!!!! The way some are responding it sounds like Im spending YOUR $$,others seem jealious or something??? I dont know, just asked a question about thickness,not your opinion on what or what not to use!!!! THanx for the others that helped me!!! 6343599-HPIM34773.jpg (57 downloads)

Re: Titanium question [Re: mr. 63plymouth] #873244 12/07/10 03:46 PM 12/07/10 03:46 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,141 Phoenix,Az. H hemicop super stock
hemicop super stock H Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,141 Phoenix,Az.	I think some of the responses is due to the fact it IS an exotic metal & expensive at that! HEY, if you got it & want to spend it, have at it! I just think that in the world of serious Stock Elim. (assuming you're in that group) that perhaps the money could go elsewhere. For me, that would mean engine development, chassis lightening or even acid-dipping (let's face it, it DOES go on!) I don't think you'll save all that much between titanium & the minimum thickness of alum. you could get away with. Of course, you could do what I saw once---a guy got some CARDBOARD , spray painted it flat silver & told Tech it was alum. He got away with it! . If your car is a "price is no object" kind of rig (good for you BTW) I'm SURE you could find other/better ways to go faster. Of course I'm sure some REAL old guys could chime in with their ideas ......

Re: Titanium question [Re: hemicop] #873245 12/07/10 04:16 PM 12/07/10 04:16 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,475 SW Ohio C cgall top fuel
cgall top fuel C Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,475 SW Ohio	The density of TI is .17 lbs. per cu. in., so if you made a panel .032 thick that was 6' X 3' in area, the panel would weigh 14.1 lbs. If the same panel were made in .040 AL, it would weigh 10.16 lbs. So there is no advantage to building a firewall from TI, unless you have some free sheets and access to carbide cutters and bits.

Re: Titanium question [Re: cgall] #873246 12/07/10 04:18 PM 12/07/10 04:18 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora A ademon master
ademon master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	So it should be better and give more time till flame blows through. Use it if you got it

Re: Titanium question [Re: ademon] #873247 12/07/10 04:38 PM 12/07/10 04:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 284 STL ,MO H Handygun enthusiast
Handygun enthusiast H Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 284 STL ,MO	I dont know what your ti callout is. I have exp w/6al-4v as stated it's very hard and definitly wont ding up or oil can like al will, be careful when grinding on it in a confined space as the sparks will ignite the off fall dust like flashpowder. Of course drill for fasteners slow (300rpm or less) and expect to eat up cutters. It cleans up well w/120 grit paper and has alot of springback so it's very forgiving,good luck.

Re: Titanium question [Re: mr. 63plymouth] #873248 12/07/10 04:40 PM 12/07/10 04:40 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	Quote: Holy!!! Just ask for a QUESTION on here and this is what I get from some of you!!!!! The way some are responding it sounds like Im spending YOUR $$,others seem jealious or something??? I dont know, just asked a question about thickness,not your opinion on what or what not to use!!!! THanx for the others that helped me!!! right off you had two correct answers . cost was mentioned ,then you made the statement Quote: I agree,but I kinda dont like your typical alum. race car stuff!!!!Different is good!!!! which really influenced my reply to reflect directly back at it. what is or why titanimum play a part in being different if it has no use or application in an area. Had you said something like less weight, more strength ,better finished look or even I like it better. I could not see it being the "different" as part of the answer I would expect. a different that only you would know ?? it made no sense to me. In response to a remark about how you spend anyone's money : around here if you get to help someone save money as oppsed to putting in an un needed area it's a plus JEALOUS sorry he's not here where I live sometimes if it hit ytou in a wrong way we / I don't give conventionl answers oo make light of something. it's all in fun don't be so thin skinned. Last edited by HEMIFRED; 12/07/10 04:55 PM.

Re: Titanium question [Re: HEMIFRED] #873249 12/07/10 05:25 PM 12/07/10 05:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 248 Ohio aquamist60 enthusiast
aquamist60 enthusiast Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 248 Ohio	Small piece of titanium in my neck cost over $100,000. But I did find out that you can polish it & get different colors. Seriously, go for it if that's what you want, but like others have said it WILL be expensive.

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