Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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12/10/10 06:05 PM
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The "WHITE" you see in your original is either "bad registration" or "faded - loss of color".
A registration problem is evident (for white) on the outlines of the artwork and not in between lines of the main text. Since the "white" is a complete blanket background of the image, it is impossible to be absent due to a registration error. Only the outside border of the white would expose a registration problem for that particular color. On this decal, the white does not have image or artwork separations. The white is the last hue applied so it flows over the colored layers that have void spots or breaks in the artwork. It completely covers the bright vivid colors that are used in the decal. All reverse printing is done this way. Also notice the white lines in the tires that are missing in the NOS version. There are quite a few others variations I will post as soon as I obtain the other version.
I didn't say white had the registration problem & wouldn't white be the FIRST "hue" put down not the last as it is printed on the "backing" not the "face liner"?
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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12/10/10 06:50 PM
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I didn't say white had the registration problem & wouldn't white be the FIRST "hue" put down not the last as it is printed on the "backing" not the "face liner"?
It is just the opposite with reverse printing which is how these decals were printed. Think of it like this Dan. If you wanted to sign your name (in marker) on the inside of your door glass so you could read it while standing outside of the car, you would have to sign it in a reverse fashion. If not, it would appear backwards as you looked at it from the outside of the car. If you wanted to have a white background behind your signature, would you place the white before you signed your name or after you signed it? If you place the white "before" signing your name, the signature would not show up when you observed it from the outside of the car. The white is the last color printed on all of these decals. When you peel them from the adhesive backer and apply them, the solid white layer can be seen from the inside of the car . The adhesive is on the printed side of the artwork.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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12/10/10 10:29 PM
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Now now, my comment would in fact be, a very smart business decision. Companies do it everyday, buy other companies or remaining stock just to remove it/them from the marketplace. All perfectly legal. Duh. Just because I might occasionally figure out how something works doesn't meant I'd actually use it, make it or exploit it. Shows 'my personality traits'? Please. Nor did 'accuse' anyone of anything. Go bully someone else. And, just to 'prove' (as if I need to) what a sport I am, I have a pair of the nos b body bees and I'll offer them to the first person to tell me they have a need and would like them. I don't need them. Even you Dave. I'll even pay for the stamp.
I can't afford this.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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12/10/10 11:08 PM
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We have a winner! Thanks for playing!
I can't afford this.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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12/10/10 11:48 PM
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And, just to 'prove' (as if I need to) what a sport I am, I have a pair of the nos b body bees and I'll offer them to the first person to tell me they have a need and would like them. I don't need them. Even you Dave.
Dog gone it! I missed out again. I was going to buy your two decals, resell them for a small fortune and then go buy a Ferrari or something. If it weren't for you exposing my other manipulating scheme, I was going to be able to buy a Beach front home in Tahiti with the MILLIONS of $$$$$ I would have made from scarfing up those 300 little NOS window Bees and ruling the Mopar World! Oh well.....there goes Christmas for the kids. Why did you have to go and ruin my hopes for becoming a successful business tycoon?!
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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12/11/10 01:09 AM
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Touchy. You really are looking to deeply here.
Any idea why the vendor would have so many more of one side?
I can't afford this.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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12/11/10 01:36 AM
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I didn't say white had the registration problem & wouldn't white be the FIRST "hue" put down not the last as it is printed on the "backing" not the "face liner"?
It is just the opposite with reverse printing which is how these decals were printed. Think of it like this Dan. If you wanted to sign your name (in marker) on the inside of your door glass so you could read it while standing outside of the car, you would have to sign it in a reverse fashion. If not, it would appear backwards as you looked at it from the outside of the car. If you wanted to have a white background behind your signature, would you place the white before you signed your name or after you signed it? If you place the white "before" signing your name, the signature would not show up when you observed it from the outside of the car. The white is the last color printed on all of these decals. When you peel them from the adhesive backer and apply them, the solid white layer can be seen from the inside of the car . The adhesive is on the printed side of the artwork.
My bad! I'm looking at this thing as if it was similar to a "water slide decal" not a pressure sensitive "sticker". I NOW see it was built from the glass-surface-in.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
[Re: a12superbee]
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12/11/10 02:54 PM
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......You really are looking to deeply here..... Any idea why the vendor would have so many more of one side?
Isn't that ironic? Your (above) statement was exactly what I thought when I read your view regarding my purpose for purchasing the inventory of decals. Remember this? "Or perhaps remove the NOS units from the market in order to drive UP the prices on the repops."
To answer your other question, I have no idea or opinion as to why this individual has so many of just one side. I don't make it a practice to criticize or judge any scenario without having at least some knowledge about the situation! (Where did I say that I was getting them from another "vendor"?) Maybe you could tell us why he has them all!
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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12/11/10 03:31 PM
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I find it very interesting that there are so many "NOS" ones of these decals floating around some forty years later... It's not like it would have been a highly serviceable part...If they faded, wore out or got damaged were people really that bothered by it to replace them forty years ago... Did the poor vendor printing them just run off a couple of extra thousand for the heck of it? They decide to sell them to re-coup some of their money? Did thousands of them find their way out of the assembly plants in lunch pails.... So many unanswered questions
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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12/11/10 07:50 PM
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Right here;
......or, the place I am getting them from has no impact on the market because they are not being offered for sale to the public. If I don't buy every single one of the 300 left sides, then I can't obtain the twenty right sides he has in order to complete some matching pairs. Imagine that!?! I have to buy 280 left sides that will not have a matching right side just to get 20 complete sets!
I still can't find where I ever stated that I was getting them from a "vendor". Can you please point out the word "vendor" from the quote you chose to prove your point? Did you not understand the part where I said they WERE NOT offered for sale to the public? Did I really need to specify that they were coming from an individual who bought them (and stashed them away) many years ago? Would that have made any difference to you?
I apologize that you feel bullied by me RESPONDING to your initial and instigating remark. Don't expect someone to blow you a kiss when you start things off with a slap in the face.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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12/12/10 09:09 AM
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Is someone seriously questioning Chrysler ordering one side far greater than the other? Obviously they have never looked for NOS Challenger side marker lights or headlamp bezels. Dave - Please post the Bee differences when you have the final set. Inquiring minds want to know.
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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12/12/10 09:46 AM
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I have used quite a few of the ECS decals and other "goodies" on some cars that I have restored. I love, what I call, "little stupid details". When you pop the hood of a freshly restored car and you see little decals wrapped around the harness and battery cables... they are easy to overlook, but when someone notices them, it makes the car that much better.
Anyways Dave, to answer your question... if I were to choose between the NOS replacement Bees versus the "factory correct" repro Bees, I would go with the correct repros. Just out of curiosity, how much would each set run?
Justin "CornDog"
1966 Dodge Charger 1968 Plymouth Satellite (Un-Restored "Survivor") 1969 Dodge Charger (W.B. General Lee) 1969 Dodge Charger (Future DMCL Clone) 1969 Dodge Super Bee, 383 4spd
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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12/12/10 04:54 PM
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Just out of curiosity, how much would each set run?
About $10-$12 for both sides. The variations will not change the cost. (A,B or E Body) They will all "bee" the same price!
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Re: Scat pak decal on quarter window?
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#869622
12/12/10 07:12 PM
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Well then I will "Bee" interested in a set of the factory correct decals when they are available!
Justin "CornDog"
1966 Dodge Charger 1968 Plymouth Satellite (Un-Restored "Survivor") 1969 Dodge Charger (W.B. General Lee) 1969 Dodge Charger (Future DMCL Clone) 1969 Dodge Super Bee, 383 4spd
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