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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno.....
[Re: DavidDean]
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11/25/10 05:39 AM
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This is why mots of the Big Hitters that run turbos are running EFI and Log-Manifold intakes. Only way to fix that issue and use that same elbow is put splitter in it. I'm actually surprised there isn't just as many complaints with the Wilson Elbows that go under the TBs. Granted those are EFI and they can control the AFR per cylinder but the fact is it still isn't distributing the air evenly to the cylinders. Now I have something else to think about when mine starts to go together. I do find it funny,interesting and odd that many old and archaic technologies have proven to be the better way to do things. 
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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno.....
[Re: 67_Satellite]
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11/25/10 01:42 PM
11/25/10 01:42 PM
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RyanJ
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That looks like the same route I took with mine. Probably because I used the SDCE piece as a model.I did it so that I could run the flat hood.Mine is made from 1/8" plate for the base,a 14" air cleaner lid for the top,and some hardware store .032"sheet metal wrapped around for the sides. I also made a short "velocity stack" about 3/4" tall at the carb. inlet and put an epoxy cone in the lid to get the air to"turn the corner".It has a 3" inlet and some directional vanes to direct the air into the carb. from all sides instead of just one. I think the internal volume of the whole thing helps too as it slows the air down before it's asked to do a 90 degree turn. After I had it all welded up I capped it up and tested it at 25 P.S.I. Much to my surprise it didn't split!
Sounds like it is similar except for maybe how you have the inside done, there are no directional vanes in it....
This one inside is hard to describe, but I'll try....
Basically he took a portable air tank, & cut the end off if it, for the top.... the bottom I think is a 2.3 Ford Flexplate.... cut hole in middle for the carb... It has 3" inlet on side, & then it has like a 3" tall cone the size of the carb flange that goes up into the center of the hat, so when the air comes in the inlet it can go left or right smoothly around a round "cone" but is blocked from taking a direct path right into the carb it has to go left, right or up..
& then we had a 1" spacer to raise it high enough to clear the needle/seats.
I see Vortech has a similar looking piece to SDCE also, would like to see both of those in person.
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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno.....
[Re: RyanJ]
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11/25/10 02:35 PM
11/25/10 02:35 PM
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Outstanding job Ryan. Sounds like it will be a fun ride for sure.
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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno.....
[Re: dodger mope]
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11/25/10 04:19 PM
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RyanJ
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Ryan do you have a picture of the piston, and did you hard anodize the pistons? I look foward the your great posts.whitch do you think is the weaker link, the pistons or head gaskets.
No I did not have pistons coated or anodized.... & no I did'nt take any pics of them. They are just a big -23CC round dish. Top ring is about .420" down... & alot of material in the top of the piston. These are a copy of my old CP's.... The CP's were around 420 grams, these are 520 gram with all same dimensions. I run a tool steel .215" wall pin.
I think the pistons will take as much HP as you could possibly ever make as long as it does'nt detonate or go excessively lean.
The rods or crank are the weak link in my motor.... not sure which would let go first & don't really want to find out. This just has an off shelf $950 Callies 4340 Dragonslayer crank in it... Rods are 6" Carrillo H's with SPS 7/16" bolts.
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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno.....
[Re: fishy340]
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11/25/10 10:30 PM
11/25/10 10:30 PM
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Turbo motors making a lot more steam that this with Eagle stuff inside have lived.
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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno.....
[Re: Hot 340]
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11/26/10 10:28 PM
11/26/10 10:28 PM
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RyanJ
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Interesting how smooth it makes that power... sounds like it does it effortlessly.
Yeah... that 1214 HP pull it sits on the brake for about 4 seconds making 800 HP 950 TQ waiting for the brake to stabilize it before releasing the load It is just sitting there @ 14 PSI happy as could be.
Dyno had a hell of a time "catching" it coming on the brake @ WOT, because of the methanol hit @ 6 PSI, when it hits 6 PSI & the methanol activates & the turbo hits like a freight train & boost jumps to 12-13 PSI instantly & dyno is confused as hell as to why the TQ just went crazy in a split second & so it really pulls motor down into the 4200 range trying to "catch" it, once it finally stabilizes it then it begins the pull. Definitely fun to watch. I told dyno operator, you know me & my buddy were joking while working on carb hat or something in dyno cell on Tuesday about how boring it was watching the naturally aspirated 670 HP pulls... I said, you know what, I think those were the most boring 4 dyno pulls I've ever watched.... how sick are we that seeing an 11:1 Small block with a 242 @ .050" cam make 670 is completely boring? We just kept saying, come on let's get this over with so we can see some real power LOL.
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