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Anyone use an air shifter with a clean neutral VB? #861044
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I'm using a Shifnoid setup on my Quarterstick rev pattern VB but I want to go to a clean neutral transbrake VB and keep an automated shifter.

I have a few ideas about modifying my current set up but if I can just buy one or if someone else has modified one it would help a lot.


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Re: Anyone use an air shifter with a clean neutral VB? [Re: Guitar Jones] #861045
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http://www.precisionperformance.com/power1.htm

I believe the "proflite" units would work. Might call to double check.


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Re: Anyone use an air shifter with a clean neutral VB? [Re: Triple Threat] #861046
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Thanks, I'll call them.


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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Front and rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: Anyone use an air shifter with a clean neutral VB? [Re: Guitar Jones] #861047
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I made air shifter from B&M pro ratchet just add air cylinder in it. Few years ago move to neutral vb and just add one more micro switch in it so it does`n shift any more at 3 gear. It´s wery simple and work very well.

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Re: Anyone use an air shifter with a clean neutral VB? [Re: Hessu] #861048
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Thanks for the help guys.

The Precion Products shifter would work but it's an additional $700. Not what I want to do if I don't have to, the valvebody alone is $700.

Bob at Contender Products that is the distributor for Shifnoid also suggested that or the B&M ratchet 4 speed shifter but then again that's another kit and another shifter.

I think I can machine a longer clevis to attach the gate bar to the solenoid so it will pick up the shifter where neutral is now and then lengthen the slot at the rear of the bar so I have enough room to hit the clean neutral. I think that would work if I have enough length at the back of the gate bar to lengthen the slot.


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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Front and rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: Anyone use an air shifter with a clean neutral VB? [Re: Guitar Jones] #861049
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Well after looking at my setup machining the gate bar won't work. I'd have to machine a new one.

If anyone else has any ideas I'd really like to hear them.


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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Front and rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: Anyone use an air shifter with a clean neutral VB? [Re: Guitar Jones] #861050
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Wow, only one person running an air shifter and a clean neutral valvebody?


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'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Front and rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: Anyone use an air shifter with a clean neutral VB? [Re: Guitar Jones] #861051
11/26/10 04:18 PM
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Have you looked at Turbo Action. I think with the right gate plate it should work.

Re: Anyone use an air shifter with a clean neutral VB? [Re: Guitar Jones] #861052
11/26/10 05:41 PM
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I use the turbo action shifter and Dedenbear air shifter. My Shifter is P/N 70011 reverse pattern.
Problem is 1st is neutral with this safe neutral valve body so the ramp is wrong had to do lots of modify to get it to work. Cut down the ramp and weld a new plate to change the angle also the Dedenbar shifter rod end was too soft and would mushroom over and stopped it from shifting welded a valve lash cap on the end problem solved.
I haven’t seen your system but I’m sure you should be able to get it to work. Or just buy one that works with the safe neutral. Why do you need the safe neutral?

Re: Anyone use an air shifter with a clean neutral VB? [Re: JD Dart] #861053
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Quote:

Why do you need the safe neutral?




My engine clearances are very tight, .027 piston to head for example so decelling the engine from 7200 RPM's isn't attractive to me. I've been putting it in neutral but with the shifnoid shifter I have to lift the gate bar and I've hit 2nd a couple times which is extremely bad at 130 MPH. Not to mention it's not good for the front drum either.


"Come get your wife"


'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Front and rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.






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