440 in a 97-newer Dakota?
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My buddies kid wants to build a 97 or newer Dakota and install a 440 in it. Does anyone even make motor mounts, or headers for this? Also how big of a tire can fit in the wheelwell before tubbing it? For drag racing what can be done to the front suspension? Do these things have rack and pinions or steering boxes? Never looked at one before...
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Jeff
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Re: 440 in a 97-newer Dakota?
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Jeff, http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/ is a good source for research. To answer a few of your questions: They have rack and pinion steering. As far as I know, no motor mounts/headers, everything will have to be fabbed. Biggest rear tire without tubbing will prob be 9". A few notes: The lug pattern will be an issue on rim selection. They are very heavy! Those are some of the reasons I chose a Gen II (the 97 - 06 (I think) are Gen III)
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Re: 440 in a 97-newer Dakota?
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Kayfysh had a 440 in his truck.
IIRC he used abody fenderwell headers.
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Re: 440 in a 97-newer Dakota?
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I'm an idiot. I forgot Kayfysh's truck was a 94 or so.
70cuda383 also has one.
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Re: 440 in a 97-newer Dakota?
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the newer dakotas are a pain in the ass. I just bought a 94 because of this. I have a 10" slick on my 2000 with stock 15" dakota rims with plenty of room for more. There is not much out there to change the lug pattern up front but you could have the hubs and rotors drilled for 5 lug. A 440 will be a tight fit and will need custom headers.
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Re: 440 in a 97-newer Dakota?
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I have a 97 but I did a lot of work to get it like you see it.I used S-10 control arms, spindles and brakes. I cut the dodge control arms and welded the S-10s to it moving each front tire in two inches and raking the caster back to 7 degrees. This allowed me to drop the front end.
I had to fab my headers and mounts. I used a 400 block and moved it back 6" trough the firewall and stroked it to 470.
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Re: 440 in a 97-newer Dakota?
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Adobedude, what did you do for spindles/hubs for 5 lug rims?
Jeff
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Re: 440 in a 97-newer Dakota?
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i put 5 lug rotors on a 2000,i beleive they were off an 88 model.
No you didn't, that's an impossible swap. I would start here to get an idea of the swap: http://www.bigblockdakota.com/ Thats GregZ's website, he also runs http://www.magnumhp.com/ which has some parts available for the swap. Someone mentioned www.dak-dur.com I would stay away from that place, they are going through a complete uproar over powers that be and everyone is leaving and deleting their info. I AM NOT saying that because I run a site, just giving you a heads up. Now, on my site I have a write up on some stuff that barely gets talked about when doing a small or big block carb swap into these trucks. You will need to sign up then read this thread: http://www.racemagnum.com/showthread.php?t=3119 As for 5 lug rotors, you will need custom hubs made or have your hubs and rotors redrilled for the 5 lug pattern. Rear end I would just swap in an 8 3/4" or 9".
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