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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: B5 Bee]
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10/03/10 02:32 PM
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DaveDudek
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The RoadRunner is a 496. 
Dave Dudek 1st Factory Stock legal car in the 10`s!!! [/b] FAST & Factory Stock Rules: www.fastraces.org FAST 69 Hemi RR 9.98@139
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: B5 Bee]
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10/03/10 02:32 PM
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Monte_Smith
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I know this wouldn't be a popular move, but to keep the cars stock appearing and to avoid the cost to comply with 9.99-quicker safety requirements, any thoughts to changing the rules to slow the cars down, such as no more roller cams and limit motors to 514".
That would require much more tech and a P&G meter
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: ademon]
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10/03/10 02:37 PM
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Big Squeeze
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I smell a 4.5 crank some more cam, bigger valves mabey some more compression comeing for the hemi 
But it will sound less stock 
Cubes and compression smooth out an idle......  
Congrats on your 9 second run Dave....... 
BTW.......I JUST got off the phone with Lane and, MAN, was he excited.......said he was screaming at the top of his lungs when he got the 9 sec. time slip..... 
I met him in '05 and he's a great guy that's spent a LOT of time and, I'm sure, quite a bit of money to get that car to where it's at....... He said he knew the car had a 9 in it this spring but was having traction issues and finally figured it out before this race....... said it never even tried to spin the tires and the track was good, but not stellar.....
If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: Big Squeeze]
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10/03/10 02:49 PM
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if i had to guess..hypothosis..
he's got more than enough power now...
Dave prolly has a little room with less studder/retard out of the hole...to get a quicker 60ft and et...as the car is currently running..
seems..a tad - creap in that direction(apply more power)...will be the biggest improvement in et the as it is right now....
"seems that track may have held it this past weekend....?"
that would be my guess....
Traction finding it..clutch,fuel or retard/power abatement...at the launch
Nailing how hard you can leave/apply power and what the track will hold on any given pass..
its the ubiquitous dilema for cars that make passes on the razors edge...
its a gamble..if you think your apponent is gonna go after too much and spin...
you may decide not to push/change your combo.
i have no doubt Dave the Dude knows what he is doing...
killer job..Dude!!!!!
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365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: BBR]
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10/04/10 07:44 AM
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Backwater, PA
bwdst6
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"The RoadRunner is a 496." "(LANE claims 588 cubes)" Whoa!!!  Giving up 92 cubic inches and only 0.15 behind in et?! 
Last edited by bwdst6; 10/04/10 07:46 AM.
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: bwdst6]
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10/04/10 09:01 AM
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an8sec70cuda
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Congrats to Dave and Lane! Those are awesome times from cars that look like they do, not to mention on those tires! If I had a car similar to that, I'd be cleaning up at the local tracks w/ money runs. 
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: bwdst6]
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10/04/10 09:44 AM
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Big Squeeze
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"The RoadRunner is a 496."
"(LANE claims 588 cubes)"
Whoa!!! Giving up 92 cubic inches and only 0.15 behind in et?!
Yeah, it looks like the Hemi's two carbs, better intake, better exhaust manifolds and, I'm assuming, cylinder head flow advantage makes it pretty even (both are running very similar MPH's )....... 
Wonder what both cars weigh?
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The tires these guys run in this class are an accident waiting to happen. Why they continue to run those tires is crazy, someone is going to get hurt bad.
I've never heard of a factory bias ply tire coming apart, even back in the day, especially when they're less than a few years old, like these guys are running them....... 
If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: Big Squeeze]
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10/04/10 09:55 AM
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HPMike
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"The RoadRunner is a 496."
"(LANE claims 588 cubes)"
Whoa!!! Giving up 92 cubic inches and only 0.15 behind in et?!
Yeah, it looks like the Hemi's two carbs, better intake, better exhaust manifolds and, I'm assuming, cylinder head flow advantage makes it pretty even (both are running very similar MPH's ).......
Wonder what both car weigh?
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The tires these guys run in this class are an accident waiting to happen. Why they continue to run those tires is crazy, someone is going to get hurt bad.
I've never heard of a factory bias ply tire coming apart, even back in the day, especially when they're less than a few years old, like these guys are running them.......
Wayne, you beat me to it. 
The Hemi has more advantages than any other entry in terms of factory parts. Hands down. And you aren't stuck trying to make 40 and 50 year old parts work in this type of environment. You have the luxury of using new stuff if you wish.
For those that think that bigger is better, consider this. The two Cook A12 cars went as follows.
493"-stick car went a best of [Email]10.81@129.[/Email]
526"- auto car went a best of [Email]10.73@128.[/Email]
The 526" is a more sophisticated build in a lighter car with an automatic.
Not so sure that the extra cubes is the whole answer, especially with a flow limuted head like the 906 and the traction issues of the bias ply redlines.
MB
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: Big Squeeze]
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10/04/10 10:15 AM
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Backwater, PA
bwdst6
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Yeah, it looks like the Hemi's two carbs, better intake, better exhaust manifolds and, I'm assuming, cylinder head flow advantage makes it pretty even (both are running very similar MPH's ).......
Wonder what both cars weigh?
No replacement.. displacement, yada, yada, yada. When it comes to efficiently producing HP I've never seen figures given in HP/CFM. Now I've seen a lot of figures on many engines in terms of HP/CI!!!
I would guess the RR would be at least 3800 being all steal so it's probably giving up some there, too.
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