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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: Dave Watt]
#819654
10/02/10 02:21 PM
10/02/10 02:21 PM
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Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms
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Mr Wizzard
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Spokane Washington
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I believe they might fall under safety items so therefore do not need to appear stock.
Ok, to that end, if it's done to increase safety and it's ok to deviate from a stock appearing suspension in doing so. That being the case why wouldn't an Altercation style suspension be allowed for the Mopars? Where does it end?
From a spectators point of view the closer to original the cars appear the more impressive thier accomplishments.
When I start seeing fuel cells, trick suspension parts, etc. the cars start to loose a bit of thier alure, sort of like when you see a really cool magic trick and then the magician shows you how it was done, takes some of the fun out of it for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pick on Lane either just because he's driving a Ford, I meant what I said, a HUGE congratulations to him for what he's done, and as you said, he passed tech so nothing was done wrong on his part. I'm a huge FAST fan and supporter, I just don't like some of the things I'm seeing lately in terms of what's being allowed.
 
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: Dave Watt]
#819655
10/02/10 02:24 PM
10/02/10 02:24 PM
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St Clair Shores, MI
DonnyBrass
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Dave ran a 9.98 @ 138
and was warned to keep the speed down so he said he was dragging the brakes at the top end
Chevy infiltrator 12.34 @ 109.45 with a 1.73 sixty foot
Pure Stock
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: Seth_Jones]
#819657
10/02/10 02:27 PM
10/02/10 02:27 PM
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Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms
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Mr Wizzard
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Because the mopar front end is not unsafe .
What's good for the goose.........
DAVE! Right On Man! You got your 9 second pass! 
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: DonnyBrass]
#819659
10/02/10 02:28 PM
10/02/10 02:28 PM
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Pacifica, CA
Devilbrad
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Pacifica, CA
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Dave ran a 9.98 @ 138
and was warned to keep the speed down so he said he was dragging the brakes at the top end
Thats awesome, but at that speed, whats a couple more mph? Let him run it out the back door for the bragging rights.
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
#819661
10/02/10 02:32 PM
10/02/10 02:32 PM
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Illinois
CRE2004
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Illinois
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I believe they might fall under safety items so therefore do not need to appear stock.
Ok, to that end, if it's done to increase safety and it's ok to deviate from a stock appearing suspension in doing so. That being the case why wouldn't an Altercation style suspension be allowed for the Mopars? Where does it end?
From a spectators point of view the closer to original the cars appear the more impressive thier accomplishments.
When I start seeing fuel cells, trick suspension parts, etc. the cars start to loose a bit of thier alure, sort of like when you see a really cool magic trick and then the magician shows you how it was done, takes some of the fun out of it for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pick on Lane either just because he's driving a Ford, I meant what I said, a HUGE congratulations to him for what he's done, and as you said, he passed tech so nothing was done wrong on his part. I'm a huge FAST fan and supporter, I just don't like some of the things I'm seeing lately in terms of what's being allowed.
An alterktion would just slow it down.
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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10/02/10 02:52 PM
10/02/10 02:52 PM
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sweden
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9.87? Holy Cow! That's just unbelievable from a wedge engine in a full sized car on stock tires! 
not realy a wedge but almost,429īs are of a canted valve design 
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
#819667
10/02/10 02:55 PM
10/02/10 02:55 PM
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North Alabama
Monte_Smith
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North Alabama
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Quote:
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I believe they might fall under safety items so therefore do not need to appear stock.
Ok, to that end, if it's done to increase safety and it's ok to deviate from a stock appearing suspension in doing so. That being the case why wouldn't an Altercation style suspension be allowed for the Mopars? Where does it end?
From a spectators point of view the closer to original the cars appear the more impressive thier accomplishments.
When I start seeing fuel cells, trick suspension parts, etc. the cars start to loose a bit of thier alure, sort of like when you see a really cool magic trick and then the magician shows you how it was done, takes some of the fun out of it for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pick on Lane either just because he's driving a Ford, I meant what I said, a HUGE congratulations to him for what he's done, and as you said, he passed tech so nothing was done wrong on his part. I'm a huge FAST fan and supporter, I just don't like some of the things I'm seeing lately in terms of what's being allowed.
An early Mustang, has some of the worst front suspension geometry on the planet, and you want to nit pick, because he has some bumpsteer correction stuff. As far as the cell, they should be required to have a cell at these ETs. 9s also require a full cage, window net, license and I bet those stock bias tires are not rated for that speed. Could be that the tires on the Stang are speed rated and Dave's are not. Have no idea what's on the cars. Either way, with the speed these cars are running, "stock appearing" is going to take a back seat to "ET legal" from here on out, and rightfully so. And to me, just because it has a cage and a fuel cell, makes it no less impressive. These cars are flying
Monte
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: DonnyBrass]
#819669
10/02/10 03:05 PM
10/02/10 03:05 PM
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Canada
CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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Canada
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Congrats Dave!!!! How great is it following the Black Beast over the years? Congrats to both Dave Dudek and Lane in the Mustang. 
CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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Re: 10.02 @ 139.02 ... the black Road Runner goes FASTer
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
#819670
10/02/10 03:08 PM
10/02/10 03:08 PM
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Canada
CrAzYMoPaRGuY
I Live Here
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I Live Here
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Canada
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I believe they might fall under safety items so therefore do not need to appear stock.
Ok, to that end, if it's done to increase safety and it's ok to deviate from a stock appearing suspension in doing so. That being the case why wouldn't an Altercation style suspension be allowed for the Mopars? Where does it end?
From a spectators point of view the closer to original the cars appear the more impressive thier accomplishments.
When I start seeing fuel cells, trick suspension parts, etc. the cars start to loose a bit of thier alure, sort of like when you see a really cool magic trick and then the magician shows you how it was done, takes some of the fun out of it for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pick on Lane either just because he's driving a Ford, I meant what I said, a HUGE congratulations to him for what he's done, and as you said, he passed tech so nothing was done wrong on his part. I'm a huge FAST fan and supporter, I just don't like some of the things I'm seeing lately in terms of what's being allowed.
I look under the Mustang and it just ain't "right" from a "stock appearing" standpoint.
If it's allowed in the rules is ONE thing, if it looks like FACTORY APPEARING to the masses, well that's a whole different story.
Can't fault Lane, if he is cleared he is cleared. Impressive times, I just wish he had done it with a "factory appearing" front end. The aftermarket parts up front can't be worth THAT much time in the 1/4..?
If it's safety related- make another class? Factory appearing/ slightly altered. 
CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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