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Re: Mig welding Q&A [Re: challengermike] #814061
09/27/10 09:11 PM
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I usually run my regulator anywhere from 12-25

Re: Mig welding Q&A [Re: RobX4406] #814062
09/27/10 11:37 PM
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About 15. At 20 it may steady the arc a bit in a windy garage but youll use a bit more gas. Above 20 and your wasting money. All you want is a small pocket of inert gas that will not react with the arc. Argon will have a smooth finish. Co2 will alow a lot of heat and flatten the bead. A 75/25 mix is good for most.

That guy that sold you that tank is also the guy that will exchange the empty one, RIGHT? Hummmmm.

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Re: Mig welding Q&A [Re: Dave_J] #814063
09/27/10 11:57 PM
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About 15. At 20 it may steady the arc a bit in a windy garage but youll use a bit more gas. Above 20 and your wasting money. All you want is a small pocket of inert gas that will not react with the arc. Argon will have a smooth finish. Co2 will alow a lot of heat and flatten the bead. A 75/25 mix is good for most.

That guy that sold you that tank is also the guy that will exchange the empty one, RIGHT? Hummmmm.







Too much pressure will also quench the weld. (bad thing)


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Re: Mig welding Q&A [Re: Dave_J] #814064
09/28/10 12:03 AM
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I use a fume extractor and it can suck the sheilding gas away if I get it too close to the work. I run 30 cfm and its fine. Since most of my welding is generating good revenue I'm not concerned whether I could have welded another 15 minutes on the tank if I'd drop the pressure.

Re: Mig welding Q&A [Re: Stanton] #814065
09/28/10 08:23 AM
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Nothing wrong with that helmet for the home user/hobbyist. The higher end units look nicer and have a higher quality shell and (where it really counts) a much better headband/hinge mechanism. But the lenses are likely no better.



Interesting. I am going HF today anyway so that looks like a done deal, too.

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Re: Mig welding Q&A [Re: 74-440Charger] #814066
09/28/10 09:00 AM
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One more question for the experts here what pressure do you run the gas at on your mig? Thanks




The proper gas regulator is a flow meter not a pressure gauge , I'm not sure what the correlation is between CFM and psi , I usually set it at 20cfm.

Re: Mig welding Q&A [Re: JohnRR] #814067
09/28/10 01:36 PM
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One more question for the experts here what pressure do you run the gas at on your mig? Thanks




The proper gas regulator is a flow meter not a pressure gauge , I'm not sure what the correlation is between CFM and psi , I usually set it at 20cfm.




...I've been away from Boiler tube welding for some time now (retired disability) ~ 11 yrs, & seam's like I ran about 18 on the flow meter.

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Re: Mig welding Q&A [Re: Commando1] #814068
09/28/10 06:48 PM
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Nothing wrong with that helmet for the home user/hobbyist. The higher end units look nicer and have a higher quality shell and (where it really counts) a much better headband/hinge mechanism. But the lenses are likely no better.



Interesting. I am going HF today anyway so that looks like a done deal, too.

Harbor Freight: The company you LOVE to Hate.





Ive got one of the HF $ 49.00 adjustible lens helmet and it just doesnt get dark enough at its highest setting 12. After a few seconds of welding the bright light blinds me like in your dark welding pic.

Im back with a old broken strap helmit now, it works much better. The work looks like your lighter welding pic.

Maybe I got a bad one, but I got another buddy who has a adjustible and he has the same complaint. I dont know if he got his from Harbor freight or not, But right now neither one of us will use those adjustible helmets.

IMO, you have to get the expensive ones for them to work right but I could be wrong. Like I said, maybe I got a bad one, or maybe the Chinese have fixed the problems with those helmets. mike

Re: Mig welding Q&A [Re: Sport440] #814069
09/29/10 11:39 AM
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If I can toss in a question; what about mig welding on a car with modern electronics? Seems it would make sense to keep the ground close to the welding point, but what else should one do/not do?

Re: Mig welding Q&A [Re: Sport440] #814070
09/29/10 11:41 AM
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Nothing wrong with that helmet for the home user/hobbyist. The higher end units look nicer and have a higher quality shell and (where it really counts) a much better headband/hinge mechanism. But the lenses are likely no better.



Interesting. I am going HF today anyway so that looks like a done deal, too.

Harbor Freight: The company you LOVE to Hate.





Ive got one of the HF $ 49.00 adjustible lens helmet and it just doesnt get dark enough at its highest setting 12. After a few seconds of welding the bright light blinds me like in your dark welding pic.

Im back with a old broken strap helmit now, it works much better. The work looks like your lighter welding pic.

Maybe I got a bad one, but I got another buddy who has a adjustible and he has the same complaint. I dont know if he got his from Harbor freight or not, But right now neither one of us will use those adjustible helmets.

IMO, you have to get the expensive ones for them to work right but I could be wrong. Like I said, maybe I got a bad one, or maybe the Chinese have fixed the problems with those helmets. mike




You get what you pay for, I would think your vision is worth more than 49 bucks.

Re: Mig welding Q&A [Re: BSharp] #814071
09/29/10 03:38 PM
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Just my opinion. You should always have the ground clamp as close to your weld area as possable. But on any vechile you need to disco the battery. Thats about all you can do. I have heard of people removing the ECM/Computers. If your going to weld anywhere within 4 feet of the ECM, I'd remove it for sure.


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