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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: Iron_Iceberg]
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07/02/08 05:57 PM
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Would it really kill the selling price later on by going to a black interior?
I don't think changing interior color or any other bolt on changes will affect a cars value a significant amount unless you toss the original (and in some cases hard to find) parts. Go ahead and add whatever bolt on items you like, keep all the original stuff and you'll be fine.
Changing a cars paint color is a MUCH bigger deal, a PROPER color change basically requires that the car be stripped of every nut and bolt until it's a bare metal shell before repainting the new color (and the same if it's reversed). The other considertion is the labor involved in stripping and replacing all of the parts during the process. A color change iss not just the cost of a fresh paint job, but allot of additional assosiated labor expenses as well.
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: biginchmotor]
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10/08/08 07:23 AM
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Cudabit...I have a 74 Barracuda that is ready for paint also and I am not sure what color to go with. The car will be a driver to enjoy. The original color was Frost Green Metallic. It has a black interior. I am looking into a gold or gray color myself, do what you like and you will be happy with the results, John.
I got Kevin mixing up some fresh Panther Pink as we speak ! 
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: gtx6970]
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10/08/08 02:10 PM
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Lost of pros and cons both ways.
I was in the same boat 20 years when I bought my Road Runner. It's an original Sand Pebble Beige car with a gator grain top, brown interior, and go wing. Aside from adding the hood stripe, as it's pictured below is basically how it looked when it was new. When I bought it, is was painted a shade of orange similar to hemi orange. I drove it like that for the first couple of years while I debated what color to paint it, I was leaning toward just about any color beside green and beige. I was in the process of taking it apart for body work when on a whim I read an ad for Galen Govier and called him up. 20 years ago he had no where near the name he has today, and he was quite happy to talk cars with me over the phone. It was then that I learned just how rare my car was. Had it not been for that phone call, my road runner probably would be painted red now and be just another Road Runner in a sea of generic clones. I get so a ton of comments about it's unusual color combo everytime I drive it, and I am very happy with my decision to keep it original.
Now in your situation, your Cuda isn't anything really unusual and not a color combo that appeals to most people today. White with green interior certainly doesn't excite my senses, and 74 Cudas are not big dollar cars, especially when compared against their more prized older siblings.
Bottom line, it's your car, do what you want with it. I won't flame you for changing it's color combination. I do agree with the others that if you do change, try to keep to something that was available that year.
I also think in this case that a color change won't hurt the car's value either way. Not everyone is into reading fender tags and quoting statistics, some people just like cars for the car's sake.
(btw, my other driver is a 69 Coronet 500 convertible. It's been modified to look like an R/T, it's painted red, and was originally t7. I bought it the way it is because I liked it, I knew it was a clone and color changed, and I am happy with the car regardless)
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: 6PakBee]
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10/08/08 03:41 PM
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Ahhh. Another TFTD (thread from the dead) Seeing as how the OP posted this some 3+ months ago, the car may have already been painted by now  ...but as I reread all the posts a couple thoughts come to mind; - 1) Do what you want, it's your car.....well DUH! That sort of goes without saying (or it should) The OP asked for OTHER peoples opinions and there is NO POINT in telling him to "do what he wants".....that should be understood. Sorry, a pet peeve of mine. - 2) Many comments that '74 318 'Cudas are basically worthless, which may be true for the most part (see sig) but that fact makes a nut and bolt resto (which is required for a PROPERLY DONE color change) fiscally irresponsible...doesn't make much sense. - 3) what's wrong with white? I understand the green interior, but if'n it were mine I'd keep it white and consider a black or blue interior. .....but of course, it's his car so he should do what he wants! For laughs, here's a pic of my mostly worthless '74 318 'Cuda sporting it's still original paint (burnished red metallic)   Dave
1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack
1974 'Cuda
2008 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Ram 3500 Diesel
2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel
2003 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Durango Limited
[url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: Finoke]
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10/08/08 05:47 PM
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Does the world really need any more red/orange/purple E-bodies?
IMO it would be a crime to take a "boring brown" E-body like Dave Pelletiers and paint it red, orange or purple.
It's okay for other opinions to vary.
Sheldon
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
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10/10/08 09:04 AM
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Well I wasn't going to reply to this because for one, I'm fairly new to this forum, and I am still trying to figure out when to reply, and what is important, plus I kinda got my answer that its about 50/50 mix of opinions and reasons to do or not to do a color change. I have decided not to change the colors. The more time I spent with this car in my garage, I realized that I felt like I didn't have the "right" to change it. After all it has been through 34 years of who knows what, since it was a daily driver up until last year. By the way I do like white for classic cars, I had two 71 challengers, in the 80's, one was white, the other I had painted white. But back then, all my friends had white cars, I guess it was "in". Anyway I do have another question...I keep seeing in the posts that a 74 barracuda is not as desirable as a 70 thru 73, I can't figure this out.( by the way NADA has a 70 318 barracuda average price 0f 14k and a 74 318 barracuda 17k) There were less 74 barracudas made than alot of the other years/models. Obviously, the "340 Cuda", was one of the "muscle" cars of the E-body family. But there is very little difference between a barracuda and a cuda, (oh I know I'm gonna hear it now). I guess to a Mopar lover, they are all just as desirable.
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
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10/10/08 09:31 AM
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Does the world really need any more red/orange/purple E-bodies?
IMO it would be a crime to take a "boring brown" E-body like Dave Pelletiers and paint it red, orange or purple.
It's okay for other opinions to vary.
Sheldon
 its a boring brown. it might as well be a 75 dart 4-dr. that would explain the ugly color. 
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: sixbbl69]
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10/10/08 11:31 AM
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I have yet to do my own cars in an original color... but I will be doing my 68 sport satellite in the original green because of how original the car is and I do plan to sell it. So I figure keep it orginal and get as much as I can out of it and its cheaper than changing things around.
68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert
340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z
66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: Silver70]
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10/10/08 02:33 PM
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Southwestern Ontario Canada
racealittle
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What I own may be considered wrong by many, and absolutely wrong by the purists; but, I think every car has it's place in someones heart and mind.
1974 Challenger, original red paint 360 car, no build sheets, no fender tag, but lots of local folklore about the car. Most of the stories are incredibly unbelieveable if you really know something about cars. BUT, it's MINE and I like it. I bought it that color, with those parts, and I'm sure I'll make my own changes which will keep it as a street machine vs. a pedigree car that limits enjoyment.
Too many cars, too many parts, too little coin, too little space to work in, too little time left to make it all happen!
Update: down to one ride, still too many parts, a little more jingle in the pocket, gaining space, and it's going to happen this year!
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: sixbbl69]
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10/10/08 10:36 PM
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Does the world really need any more red/orange/purple E-bodies?
IMO it would be a crime to take a "boring brown" E-body like Dave Pelletiers and paint it red, orange or purple.
It's okay for other opinions to vary.
Sheldon
its a boring brown. it might as well be a 75 dart 4-dr. that would explain the ugly color.
LOL,,,,, I must say I agree with this line of thought.
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: gomangoRTSE]
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10/11/08 02:32 PM
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Jacksonville, FL
Chris2581
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I have my own personal deal on this...
I have a 70 Road Runner that is Vitamin C and is getting a repaint and resto.It will stay orange.
I have a 71 Demon that is a race car.It was originally a dark brown/gold color,(ugly!!)and needed body work and repaint.We took the car apart and painted it Vitamin C orange.Now I will need to do some lower 1/4 work later and when this car gets a repaint it will be House of Kolor orange.
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: cudabitten]
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10/11/08 04:32 PM
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Well I wasn't going to reply to this because for one, I'm fairly new to this forum, and I am still trying to figure out when to reply, and what is important, plus I kinda got my answer that its about 50/50 mix of opinions and reasons to do or not to do a color change. I have decided not to change the colors. The more time I spent with this car in my garage, I realized that I felt like I didn't have the "right" to change it. After all it has been through 34 years of who knows what, since it was a daily driver up until last year. By the way I do like white for classic cars, I had two 71 challengers, in the 80's, one was white, the other I had painted white. But back then, all my friends had white cars, I guess it was "in". Anyway I do have another question...I keep seeing in the posts that a 74 barracuda is not as desirable as a 70 thru 73, I can't figure this out.( by the way NADA has a 70 318 barracuda average price 0f 14k and a 74 318 barracuda 17k) There were less 74 barracudas made than alot of the other years/models. Obviously, the "340 Cuda", was one of the "muscle" cars of the E-body family. But there is very little difference between a barracuda and a cuda, (oh I know I'm gonna hear it now). I guess to a Mopar lover, they are all just as desirable.
I had a thread about this in July when I bought this Satellite. All original paint,int etc.. Quite a few posts were very adamant that I keep the car original colors. I pretty much hate the yellow, but I like the idea of a painted top(it's different) I drove the car a bit through the summer and kind of warmed up to the 2 tone green interior. I'm now thinking of painting it light(F3)green with the factory F8 painted top and green interior. I'm also making it an A12(6bbl) clone. How much can a yellow and green 318 car be worth, right?
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