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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
#81127
06/29/08 02:49 PM
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The percentage of true purist in the hobby is very small compared to the rest that just enjoy these old cars. The reason there are so many Red, Black, Blue, Orange, Purple cars is because that is what people want today on these cars.
I don't think that a color change from Green or Gold to a more saleable color hurts one bit. In fact I think that that in this type of case it makes the car sell faster for at least the same money as the original color of more. If you are not changing for the sake of resale than it makes no difference because it is for the owners enjoyment
Best said quote here!...........basically do what you desire,......I say who cares if its numbers matching, all original......do it the way you want,...and if you decide to sell it someday, and the first joker decides he dosen't like it cause the color was changed....oh well move aside!, there'll be others who want to buy it!
The purist would cringe......I'm taking a numbers matching FM3 rubber bumpered sm blk Cuda'.....dropping in a 440/6, painting it black, adding a Shaker, go-wing, etc......cause that what I want to do!.......If I ever sell it, and I get the money I want for it.......then everybodies happy........do what you want, don't be swayed.......original, custom,cloned,  what you want!
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: DAYCLONA]
#81128
06/30/08 12:12 AM
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restos just aren't my thing
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My m-code bee was originally orange and automatic. Now that it is black and a 4spd, I am still in love with it after all these years. Had I put it back to original, it would have been sold as soon as I finished it if I even finished it at all. Go with your heart. By the way, I've gotten some pretty serious offers on my car, and it's about as far from stock as it gets.
Restoring a car to look "only" as good as the factory made it is like getting a boob job for your wife and having the doctor make them two different sizes to seem more natural
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: rm23j8g]
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06/30/08 11:43 AM
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Change the color isf you don't like what you have. I am changing the color of my 70 Challenger R/T. It was an original Top Banana car and I don't like yellow at all. The car was painted blue when I got it, it doesn't have the build sheet or fender tag, so it's going to end up Plum Crazy (which was the color of my first Challenger back in high school). I am also changing the color of my '68 cuda from Gold to Omaha Orange. Once again - I am doing it b/c I like that color more than Gold. I am not building them for anyone else or for resale. I am building them for me to enjoy them. If I sell them down the road and the purists pass on them, that's fine w/ me.
1970 Challenger Convertible soon to be T/A convertible
Contrary to the opinions of some, I am not dumber than I look.
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: Erik]
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06/30/08 11:54 AM
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Nothing wrong with green and white if it is done right. Lots of people hate green but it is funny how many cars Ma built with the color green inside and/or inside. It is your car and I respect your choices.   
Last edited by 68Cbarge; 06/30/08 11:55 AM.
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: cudabitten]
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06/30/08 12:38 PM
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I'll spare you the "it's your car, do what you want" sentiments 'cause that should be UNDERSTOOD. You ASKED for opinions, and mine is to keep it the stock colors. Scott and HPMike said it best (no huge surprise!  ) so I'll avoid reiterating. If you really want to change something, the interior isn't as big a deal than a properly done color change IMO.  Dave
1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack
1974 'Cuda
2008 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Ram 3500 Diesel
2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel
2003 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Durango Limited
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: DPelletier]
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06/30/08 01:14 PM
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If you're gonna do an anally correct nut and bolt high-dollar show car resto, don't change the color. If you just want a nice driver/local show car, I doubt a well-done color change, especially from a less-desirable color to a more-desirable color, would hurt the value. That said, I'd leave this one white with a green interior, for two reasons: 1) the car is so original, and 2) blue-with-a-black interior has been done to death.
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
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06/30/08 01:29 PM
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If you're gonna do an anally correct nut and bolt high-dollar show car resto, don't change the color.
If you just want a nice driver/local show car, I doubt a well-done color change, especially from a less-desirable color to a more-desirable color, would hurt the value.
That said, I'd leave this one white with a green interior, for two reasons: 1) the car is so original, and 2) blue-with-a-black interior has been done to death.
 he said 'anally' uh huh huh!
the car in my sig has been in my family since 1984. It was originally GY3 Citron Yella/White Int. I hate that combo.. ok i like white interiors but that yellow is ridiculous. Guess I'll paint it J4 'Moss Green' and never sell it.
and that's your answer. Keepin' it? do what you want. Selling it...? do what you want.
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: NigelTufnel]
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06/30/08 01:46 PM
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he said 'anally' uh huh huh!
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The term anal-retentive (or anally retentive, anal retentive), commonly abbreviated to "anal", is used conversationally to describe a person with such attention to detail that the obsession becomes an annoyance to others, and can be carried out to the detriment of the anal-retentive person. The term derives from Freudian psychoanalysis.
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
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06/30/08 01:57 PM
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Plain truth is it's yours and you can, will, and should do what ever it is you choose in the end. As stated with a later model, non-high end car I think if you stay with available color combos from that model year you can't go too wrong. If you are wrestling with it just changing the interior color only to black, and saving the original panels won't hurt the value at all IMO You could always add a cool factory color stripe of your choice. My car is a 340 4spd with matching #'s. If it weren't it would be triple black, but I'm going back red  . It will look awesome but I love the triple black cars
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: 68Cbarge]
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06/30/08 02:07 PM
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depends on the car. I am going to color change the vert too when ever if ever i start back working on the e body vert. i changed from the gold and black dart sport to FM3 since i had the paint and car was on a budjet. i had the drive line so just body and paint so car was dome on the cheap. body and paint cost 1K or so and i had the whole drive line. So it was a no brainer to just use what i had and get the car done and cheap.Yea it was and is a 340-4 car{H code} but was also just a 73 with the nose 
The vert was a B5 blue with black top car but will be sublime /black top and guts but was just a 318 car with 340six stroker{423six}
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: TrueTripleX]
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07/01/08 09:05 PM
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I'll put in my two cents for what its worth. If your car is rare and has historical value tied into its rarity then the original color is the only way to go. Then this brings rarity into the equation as well as historically significant, what are meant by these... well not to offend any one but a 1970 barracuda convertible with a 383 4 barrel may be rare but it has no historical value... someone old, or someone lame ordered it, bought it and kept it all original because it was never more then just transportation. Now anything multicarbed, or has a big wing and a pointy nose should be painted the factory color. Any car model that could only be had with a performance engine should have the same treatment.
And if your trying to relive old memories... go for it and do what you want... if you have a good foundation but its a color that you dislike don't go out and buy a P.O.S just because its a cool color and have to replace every panel...just remember after it painted the wrong color and when you do get rid of it there maybe a few people who disagree with what you did..tell them its just a Challenger, or just a Coronet!!!
oh ya... never, never, never paint the bottom of the car body color and call it restored! Its now a custom!
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: cudabitten]
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07/02/08 03:28 PM
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Obviously it's your choice, but even that depends on several factors. Are you flipping or even considering selling in the future? Or did you buy it because you love it and are going to keep it forever? Only you know the answers.
I changed my original color. Here's my scenario. Bought it because I always wanted one. Have no intention of selling. Car was a numbers matching R/T and totally original -- 383 4-speed, Plum Crazy with white butt stripe, white top and white interior. Not a bad combo, but pretty common. The kicker was that there was no fender tag (early accident) and as an LA-built car, it didn't have a build sheet anywhere to be found. Without these two items, and coupled with the fact that is "only" a 383, I decided to turn it into the car I would have ordered and purchased new, if I could have. I figure as long as I'm happy, that's all that matters. The restoration is well documented with photos and all paperwork, so in the unlikely event I should ever sell it, I will never represent the car as anything other than what it really is.
Until total honesty is on the table, we're not even talking about reality...
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Re: Changing original colors...good or bad?
[Re: Iron_Iceberg]
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07/02/08 04:56 PM
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I have a fairly desirable 70 Cuda, original V code with original block, shaker hood car. Original F8 green paint, black vinyl top, and green interior.
The car needs a full resto.
I just hate the green interior. I love the green paint, vinyl top etc. but the green interior makes me want to puke.
The car needs all new interior and some one did make a half baked attempt at a color change to black in its past. So not much green worth saving.
Would it really kill the selling price later on by going to a black interior? Are their really that many people who like green interiors on green cars? I don't know, That white car with a green interior looks great but green on green in green ick. This will drive me crazy. I really want to do a black interior but I would hate to loose any history or future cash if I have to sell by making the change.
What to you think Scott? How much of a loss.
That's almost EXACTLY the position I was in:
- '70 V code Superbee, orig. motor, F8, Black vinyl top, Green interior. Car was previously the subject of an aborted amature resto where it was on it's way to becoming Sublime with a black interior....
The interior was shot, but what WAS there was black. I really struggled to decide to keep the black stuff or to go with the green as per the fender tag. There was never any question on the exterior paint as I love the dark green and I also really liked the black vinyl top and butt stripe. Eventually I decided to go with the green as I don't mind how it looks and I got a little bored looking at all the black interiors out there, but it wasn't an easy decision.
There will always be collectors that want the car to be as correct as possible, particularly a rare V code, shaker E-body, but as much as I'm a self professed purist (hated as we are around here!) I don't consider an interior color change to be as detrimental as an exterior color change: the interior stuff is much easier to switch back if someone so desired.
Dave
1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack
1974 'Cuda
2008 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Ram 3500 Diesel
2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel
2003 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Durango Limited
[url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]
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It is YOUR car and YOU shold be happy. Now saying that, I also agree to a point with Scott onattempting to keep it original. take a look at this car 
