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Accusump install pics #808014
09/19/10 02:10 PM 09/19/10 02:10 PM
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Corvallis,OR
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Im looking to avoid a costly replay of Cudabins misfortune. Does anyone have some pics and advise they would be willing to post? Im using Indy-1's as well and plan to upgrade with some drainbacks to the pan over the winter.
Thanks
Tony

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: 540CUDA] #808015
09/19/10 02:55 PM 09/19/10 02:55 PM
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Tulsa, Oklahoma
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Ours is mounted on the fenderwell.

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: 540CUDA] #808016
09/19/10 03:12 PM 09/19/10 03:12 PM
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Morrow, OH
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No pics but mine is mounted on the driver side of the engine plate..............

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: markz528] #808017
09/19/10 03:23 PM 09/19/10 03:23 PM
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no pictures either, but mine is installed on the splash pan between the grill and radiator, out of sight but clocked where I can see the gage.

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: 540CUDA] #808018
09/19/10 03:32 PM 09/19/10 03:32 PM
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if possible use a 4 port remote filter base. Using the extra outlet for your connetion makes it very easy to feed the accusump with clean oil and return it to the same place your filter does. That way you supply oil diretly to the critcal area, some herechose to use the port where the oil pressure gauge isand that's no good.

here where it mounts

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: HEMIFRED] #808019
09/19/10 03:34 PM 09/19/10 03:34 PM
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Kissimmee Fl.
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if possible use a 4 port remote filter base. Using the extra outlet for your connetion makes it very easy to feed the accusump with clean oil and return it to the same place your filter does. That way you supply oil diretly to the critcal area, some herechose to use the port where the oil pressure gauge isand that's no good.

here where it mounts



I have mine plumed with a 4 port remote filter also works very well.

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: HEMIFRED] #808020
09/19/10 03:36 PM 09/19/10 03:36 PM
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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: HEMIFRED] #808021
09/19/10 04:10 PM 09/19/10 04:10 PM
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fred do you have another pic where it feeds into the block down there? if so thx

I have a melling HV oil pump

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: 540CUDA] #808022
09/20/10 08:15 PM 09/20/10 08:15 PM
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So. IL. USA
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Mine is on the firewall and plumbed into an Indy pump cover.
Re: Accusump install pics [Re: moparniac] #808023
09/20/10 08:45 PM 09/20/10 08:45 PM
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fred do you have another pic where it feeds into the block down there? if so thx

I have a melling HV oil pump



That's the beauty of using a four port filter mount. It is the feed and supply . there are no other lines.

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: HEMIFRED] #808024
09/20/10 09:30 PM 09/20/10 09:30 PM
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Saskatchewan, Canada
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The Indy Maxx block has #8 threaded port to run an external pickup directly to the front of the block. Could you plumb the accusump to that, or does the fact that it is a suction line mean it would just drain it right away??

Arnie

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: 540CUDA] #808025
09/20/10 11:11 PM 09/20/10 11:11 PM
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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: cudabin] #808026
09/20/10 11:28 PM 09/20/10 11:28 PM
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The Indy Maxx block has #8 threaded port to run an external pickup directly to the front of the block. Could you plumb the accusump to that, or does the fact that it is a suction line mean it would just drain it right away??

Arnie



that way you would be filling the cylinder with oil that was not filtered and that's what you would send back to it.

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: 540CUDA] #808027
09/20/10 11:32 PM 09/20/10 11:32 PM
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Canada
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I tucked mine up under the front bar...

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #808028
09/21/10 02:34 PM 09/21/10 02:34 PM
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Morrow, OH
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Here is a picture of mine.

I use the Accusump filter adapter to plumb into. It has a large fitting port so that the #10AN line is not restricted.


67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph
67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
Re: Accusump install pics [Re: markz528] #808029
09/21/10 03:42 PM 09/21/10 03:42 PM
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Corvallis,OR
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Thank you for all the pics and replies, very helpful. I have another question, what pressure should I set up the system at if using an electric valve? I see they (accusump) have a few different options. My Titan pump runs at 70psi. I am using a CV products remote filter mount. It only has three ports, but theres a port Im not using. Would that be a good supply to the reservoir? like the 4-port Fred is suggesting.
Thanks

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: 540CUDA] #808030
09/21/10 11:03 PM 09/21/10 11:03 PM
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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: 540CUDA] #808031
09/22/10 12:26 AM 09/22/10 12:26 AM
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Quote:

Thank you for all the pics and replies, very helpful. I have another question, what pressure should I set up the system at if using an electric valve? I see they (accusump) have a few different options. My Titan pump runs at 70psi. I am using a CV products remote filter mount. It only has three ports, but theres a port Im not using. Would that be a good supply to the reservoir? like the 4-port Fred is suggesting.
Thanks



Yes it would if that port is in the return passage and it should be

I use the manual valve on the Duster and trying the standard electric on the Cuda . I like the no metering flowm of the manual. It make the sump become fully working part of the oil system rather than an addition. Using the manual it flows unmetered with no pauses and there's zero chances of electric failures

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: HEMIFRED] #808032
09/22/10 01:49 PM 09/22/10 01:49 PM
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Corvallis,OR
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So for the manual lever system you just open the valve before you make the run? or do you have a have a cable/lever to open it should the need arise. I guess I dont understand how it would automatically release pressurized oil with a manual ball valve at the accumulator. Sorry for the ignorance.

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: 540CUDA] #808033
09/22/10 03:29 PM 09/22/10 03:29 PM
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So for the manual lever system you just open the valve before you make the run? or do you have a have a cable/lever to open it should the need arise. I guess I dont understand how it would automatically release pressurized oil with a manual ball valve at the accumulator. Sorry for the ignorance.


It has pressurized oil in it so before your start car turn valve to release oil into motor for priming. Acumulator will recharge once motor starts and then you can turn valve off for next start or leave valve open until just before you kill motor and then turn off valve.
Re: Accusump install pics [Re: 540CUDA] #808034
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So for the manual lever system you just open the valve before you make the run? or do you have a have a cable/lever to open it should the need arise. I guess I dont understand how it would automatically release pressurized oil with a manual ball valve at the accumulator. Sorry for the ignorance.



automatic only with electric..

you need to read this tech bulletin and it will educate and well as answer all your questions
http://www.accusump.com/accusump_tech.html

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: HEMIFRED] #808035
09/22/10 07:42 PM 09/22/10 07:42 PM
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Thank you for that Fred.

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: 540CUDA] #808036
09/22/10 11:46 PM 09/22/10 11:46 PM
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What I do is open my manual valve before the first time I start the car that day to pre-lube. I then close the valve and start the car. When the engine warms up, I open the valve and leave it open until the car is ready to go back on the trailer. Rev the rpms a little till the pressure builds and close the valve.

Repeat next race day.........

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67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: markz528] #808037
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Quote:

What I do is open my manual valve before the first time I start the car that day to pre-lube. I then close the valve and start the car. When the engine warms up, I open the valve and leave it open until the car is ready to go back on the trailer. Rev the rpms a little till the pressure builds and close the valve.

Repeat next race day.........




So you let the crank beat the three extra quarts of oil around till it warms up?

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: rowin4] #808038
09/23/10 01:31 AM 09/23/10 01:31 AM
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Quote:

What I do is open my manual valve before the first time I start the car that day to pre-lube. I then close the valve and start the car. When the engine warms up, I open the valve and leave it open until the car is ready to go back on the trailer. Rev the rpms a little till the pressure builds and close the valve.

Repeat next race day.........




So you let the crank beat the three extra quarts of oil around till it warms up?




??
No the instant it starts it fills the cylinder back up

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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: rowin4] #808039
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So you let the crank beat the three extra quarts of oil around till it warms up?



I run the Moroso unit and their tech support guy told me the effective quantity is closer to 2 1/2 quarts. I have a 8 quart pan (plus filter) and run a total of 11 quarts.

When you start the engine and the valve is open, it takes a little time to build oil pressure above 10 lbs (accumulator charge pressure). When it is cold I don't like that pressure build delay. After it warms up it doesn't bother me.

I rather have some additional churning of the oil when its cold than have the delay. I have never seen any negative consequences of running it that way and you need to remember that it is only low rpms and only till it warms up some..........

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67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph
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Re: Accusump install pics [Re: markz528] #808040
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with the manual valve I see no delay in refilling

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