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Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: greendart408] #804212 02/08/11 08:20 PM 02/08/11 08:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon A AndyF OP I Win
AndyF OP I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon	Quote: This is good news. How much hp and torque is the new dyno stuff good for?? I forgot to ask Paul when I talked to him last.. Should be good for 1500 hp now but we need to verify that. We'll have a temp sensor in the dyno now so we can watch the temp of the water exiting the dyno. The new pump should hold 1500 hp but some of the older plumbing on the pressure side is restrictive so it might not actually handle that much power. That is the next upgrade on the list.

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: MRMOPAR622] #804213 02/08/11 08:21 PM 02/08/11 08:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon A AndyF OP I Win
AndyF OP I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon	Quote: Andy,with the big bore block wouldn't the 572-13 heads be a better choice? Only a question. Sure, or B1 heads. But I don't have either of those so I'm running what I have.

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804214 02/08/11 10:21 PM 02/08/11 10:21 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 761 KY J juicedcuda super stock
juicedcuda super stock J Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 761 KY	What size carb are you running? 1970 Plymouth 'Cuda 1970 Plum Crazy "Gold Duster" 1973 Gold Duster

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: juicedcuda] #804215 02/08/11 10:26 PM 02/08/11 10:26 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND fishy340 master
fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	now nice job Andy,thats why bb's exist! power baby

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: juicedcuda] #804216 02/09/11 01:21 AM 02/09/11 01:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon A AndyF OP I Win
AndyF OP I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon	Quote: What size carb are you running? It is one of the new Holley Ultra Dominator 1150 carbs. These are nice carbs. All aluminum, external linkage, billet metering blocks with full adjustment, etc. This carb had a nice fuel curve right out of the box. 6465567-waterlines.jpg (265 downloads)

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804217 02/09/11 06:09 PM 02/09/11 06:09 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Hey Andy......Can you post the dyno sheet?.....also, have you put any of these dyno'd motors into cars, and if so, what have they run at the track? If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: Big Squeeze] #804218 02/09/11 09:55 PM 02/09/11 09:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon A AndyF OP I Win
AndyF OP I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon	I bought a Duster race car so I can run the engines at the track, but it will take some time before the car is ready to go.

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804219 02/10/11 12:55 AM 02/10/11 12:55 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: I bought a Duster race car so I can run the engines at the track, but it will take some time before the car is ready to go. Cool.......Thanks......What's the Duster going to weigh and is this 514 going into it? How about a dyno sheet? If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804220 02/17/11 06:00 PM 02/17/11 06:00 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 87 Denmark D Dart of Denmark member
Dart of Denmark member D Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 87 Denmark	Quote: Well it took a long time but we're ready to start running the 514 again. We had to install a new water pump for the dyno which cost a bunch of money, and then a bunch of the plumbing for the dyno cell had to be redone to handle the additional water flow. We also had to replace the existing load cell on the dyno and upgrade some sensors. So it took several months to fit all that work in around all of the other activity that was going on. But now the new dyno cell is back up and running. The new load cell has been calibrated and has had a few runs on it. So I'll be able to start getting some new numbers for this 514 this week. 6481293-HemiDart.jpg (181 downloads)

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: Dart of Denmark] #804221 02/18/11 10:37 PM 02/18/11 10:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon A AndyF OP I Win
AndyF OP I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon	We did get about dozen dyno pulls made today. Engine is making about 830 hp at the moment. I'll do some intake manifold swaps and see what happens. We had the usual glitches that always seem to show up when running a lot of dyno tests so that slowed us down a bit. I'll have to look at the dyno sheets but I think this motor is making almost 750 ft-lbs.

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804222 02/19/11 01:48 PM 02/19/11 01:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon A AndyF OP I Win
AndyF OP I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon	My mistake, torque peak is 715 ft-lbs at 5500 rpm. Almost all of the pulls showed 700 to 715 ft-lbs peaking right at the 5500 or 5600 point. So far we've tried the Indy 440-3X and the Edelbrock Super Victor intake. I'm planning on running all of the MW intakes that I have on hand so that includes an Indy 440-2, B1 intake with adapter plates and an Indy dual plane. Only MW intake that I don't have is a MP 337 but I've run it before.

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804223 02/19/11 02:30 PM 02/19/11 02:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	I look forward to the DP results. Thanks for sharing.

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804224 02/20/11 09:02 AM 02/20/11 09:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,942 NC 440Jim I Live Here
440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,942 NC	You do some great dyno comparison swaps. 830/715 was that with the Indy 440-3X ? What was the hp peak rpm? I look forward to the intake/carb spacer comparison.

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804225 02/20/11 09:17 AM 02/20/11 09:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,942 NC 440Jim I Live Here
440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,942 NC	I went through this topic to try and get the combo info all in one place. This is what was posted, so far: 514 CID Mopar block with 4.440 bore and 4.150 stroke. Indy MW EZ heads CNC ported by Modern Cyl Head, about 360 cfm. Jesel rocker arms, 1.85 I and 1.70 E. Solid roller cam with 266/272 duration. Flat top pistons, gas ported Compression around 12.4 Dry sump oil system 1150 cfm Holley Ultra Dominator 440-3X intake (will swap several) Headers: ?? dia x ?? length x ?? collector dia

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: 440Jim] #804226 02/20/11 10:58 AM 02/20/11 10:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,207 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart I Live Here
gregsdart I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,207 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	What ring size and type? 8.582, 160.18 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: gregsdart] #804227 02/20/11 11:46 AM 02/20/11 11:46 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Dyno sheet??? If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: 440Jim] #804228 02/20/11 12:49 PM 02/20/11 12:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon A AndyF OP I Win
AndyF OP I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon	Headers are 2x32 with a 3.5 x 15 collector. They are probably a little small for this engine. I had them built years ago for my 650 hp engine. I hate to go buy another set for this engine so I'm probably leaving some power on the table. I've run both the 440-3X and the Super Victor and the power curves look basically the same. SV was 715 ft-lbs at 5500 and 830 hp at 6700 rpm. The 440-3X was 715 ft-lbs at 5500 with 816 hp at 6700 rpm.

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: AndyF] #804229 02/21/11 03:13 PM 02/21/11 03:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada Dodgem master
Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	Thats cool!

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: gregsdart] #804230 02/21/11 05:41 PM 02/21/11 05:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon A AndyF OP I Win
AndyF OP I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,344 Oregon	Quote: What ring size and type? Rings came with the pistons from Diamond. It is an 0.043 top ring. I don't recall the details on the rings but they were more "trick" than what I usually run. It was something that Diamond picked for the motor.

Re: 514 on the dyno [Re: Big Squeeze] #804231 02/22/11 09:52 PM 02/22/11 09:52 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: Dyno sheet??? Are my posts not showing up? If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

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