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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: 65pacecar] #782718
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What an odd find that car appears to be. /6 sedan with discs and an 8.75 rear? Black with blue interior? Even cooler. What an unusual grocery getter.


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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: 340wedge] #782719
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Looking at these pictures made me curious. I see alot of bare spots under the engine on the oil pan and block. How were these engines painted by the factory? Long blocks? Fully assembled? Would the oil pan be painted on or off the engine?




Hi Lou,
The engines were painted as an assembly and were not covered very well in the hard to reach areas. Steve Been painted the engine with the exact same characteristics as the original example that we documented. We left the areas sparsely covered just like the original engine paint. He even put the runs in the paint (where they originally existed) but did not make them look manipulated or purposefully placed!

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: anlauto] #782720
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Were these springs painted from the factory Dave?




These springs were originally painted black by the Manufacturer/Factory. If anyone would like to see the "before" pictures for any of these components I will be happy to post them. Thanks!

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782721
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Looking at these pictures made me curious. I see alot of bare spots under the engine on the oil pan and block. How were these engines painted by the factory? Long blocks? Fully assembled? Would the oil pan be painted on or off the engine?




Hi Lou,
The engines were painted as an assembly and were not covered very well in the hard to reach areas. Steve Been painted the engine with the exact same characteristics as the original example that we documented. We left the areas sparsely covered just like the original engine paint. He even put the runs in the paint (where they originally existed) but did not make them look manipulated or purposefully placed!




My 440 engine has little or no paint on the bottom of the oil pan.
Painter was to lazy to bend down
Bob


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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782722
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Dave, did the unusual options/colors influence your decision to choose this particular car?


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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: not_a_charger] #782723
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Hi Mike! I really did not have anything in mind when the idea for this project started. I wanted to find a very low mileage Chrysler vehicle that still had all of its original components AND could be made to look new again. (The original carpet was a MUST for being able to reuse and restore.) After considering a few different vehicles across the Country, Dave Stuart reminded me of a Car that we saw at Rich Heidbreder's place. I didn't remember ever seeing the car because I was so focused on documenting Challenger radiator hoses at the time. When we went back to look at it I knew it was the Perfect candidate for what we wanted to accomplish. The exterior was the color of my Cuda and the interior was almost the same as my Challenger. When I saw the Factory options for front disc brakes, rear window defogger and 3:23 posi rear axle, I was completely sold! This car and the unique options/colors is RARER than Both my Hemicuda AND Challenger combined! Besides those statistics how many OE Gold-Four Door-Slant Six Valiants exist in the Chrysler World today?

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782724
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The car is awesome.

I'd love to find out what the original owner's thoughts were, because that car HAD to be ordered that way, no? I can't imagine a car optioned like that being given to a dealer unless it was ordered.

Odd that it has those options and no AC, too.


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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782725
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Were these springs painted from the factory Dave?




These springs were originally painted black by the Manufacturer/Factory. If anyone would like to see the "before" pictures for any of these components I will be happy to post them. Thanks!




That's what I'm thinking...There are so many little weird things about this A Body that you don't usually find on an E or B Body...amazing


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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: anlauto] #782726
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I'm really looking forward to a book I can hold in my hands. Flipping pages back and forth on the internets, it's too easy to lose focus of the details.

What proportion of components were stripped and then redone compared to components that were cleaned and detailed?


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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: a12superbee] #782727
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What proportion of components were stripped and then redone compared to components that were cleaned and detailed?




We originally thought that we would be way ahead by starting with a low mileage "clean" original car. Were we ever mistaken! Every part had to be restored and reworked in order to look new again.
I spoke with Tom Barcroft and he will be getting some additional pictures that were taken at the show. If there are any details that anyone would like to see let us know and we will post them. Between the (documentation) before and after photos, we have enough information to fill ten books.






Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782728
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I'd be interested to see a before and after of the fuel filler tube. Everyone says that the lead dip process isn't done anymore. Did you find an NOS filler tube or were you able to correctly restore the origonal? If it's the origonal, can you share your process for restoring it? Thanks

Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: burdar] #782729
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I'd be interested to see a before and after of the fuel filler tube. Everyone says that the lead dip process isn't done anymore. Did you find an NOS filler tube or were you able to correctly restore the origonal? If it's the origonal, can you share your process for restoring it? Thanks




The neck was in pretty good shape - but did have some discoloration and was dull. We used lacquer thinner, then mother's polish, and then thinner again. Dave Walden made the new gasket at the quarter panel - with the correct foam and correct adhesive. Hope this helps - Dave


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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: ECS] #782730
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Thanks Dave, Looks so good! you guys have way more energy than I do! LOL, that book would be great if you make it, i'm in!

Looking at these pictures made me curious. I see alot of bare spots under the engine on the oil pan and block. How were these engines painted by the factory? Long blocks? Fully assembled? Would the oil pan be painted on or off the engine?


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Hi Lou,
The engines were painted as an assembly and were not covered very well in the hard to reach areas. Steve Been painted the engine with the exact same characteristics as the original example that we documented. We left the areas sparsely covered just like the original engine paint. He even put the runs in the paint (where they originally existed) but did not make them look manipulated or purposefully placed!



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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: 340wedge] #782731
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Here are a few pics I took on Sunday when they were getting ready to do the awards run.







Links to the larger versions.
Valiant pic 1
Valiant pic 2

Valiant pic 3


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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: SNK-EYZ] #782732
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Having never met Dave, is that him standing next to the car dressed in white?


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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: anlauto] #782733
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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: Morty426] #782734
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Dave - Just tell me when these references will be available. I will gladly part with my money.




Please let us know when they are available!

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Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: anlauto] #782735
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Having never met Dave, is that him standing next to the car dressed in white?




That would be Mr. Steve Been in that photo Alan.....pleasure to meet you!


Re: OE Gold Valiant Pictures From The Mopar Nationals. [Re: 65pacecar] #782736
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