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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: RyanJ] #767207
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ryan awesome..but god damn that 950 of your..lol,that thing is the @#$% ha.

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: RyanJ] #767208
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Ryan, I see no reason why the car wont hook up on slicks. We have cars out here on the west coast putting over 1000 tq down AT the tires and hooking on 8.5" wide slicks as per class rules. You'll be fine.

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: Devilbrad] #767209
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Definetly looks like that thing is making some steam.....with your cubes and compression and very small cam definetly no reason that motor shouldn't have been making killer boost very early.....now bolt up bout a 91-94mm thumper and pick up 500 hp no problem!


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All aluminum Indy HEMI with some boost!
COMING TO A TRACK NEAR YOU!


Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: RyanJ] #767210
08/07/10 01:08 PM
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Id love to built that kinda stuff all day long and get paid for it.

GREAT WORK!!!

Kasey




I was'nt getting paid LOL

& luckily I have good enough repore with dyno shop that I got 5 1/2 days on the pump & 50+ pulls for free. Big Thanks to Greg Long & Denny @ DL Auto for the tireless efforts this week getting this turd to work.




Nice....What can you say about somebody who thrashes for +5days on a project like that, not getting paid, or just for the fun of it, its still a ton of work...Either you need therepy, or your really enjoying figuring these little wonders out for the knowledge it brings to you. Congrats, many of us are envious we don't get nearly that out of this hobby.

Thanks for the super detailed posting as well, now get some rest, it sounds like you need it. I still think you need therepy though.

PS...And there ARE those of us that do own big Hemi's that know what the small blocks are capable of, with and without boost, it just takes a little determination to follow thru on a project to make it all work.

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: instigator] #767211
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curiousity question how much would a a piece like that run for?

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: Dragula] #767212
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Great post Ryan! I would love to put a turbo in my Bee. Did you have any issues with the hot side plumbing fitting in the engine bay? I've got a tired 383 that I plan to swap out with a 400 stroked. The original plan was for a 500ci or 512 but with a turbo I won't need that much ci. Do you have any pic's of the engine bay?


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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: 340_Dart] #767213
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When we changed our junk over from P/Charger to twins we had no idea of the learning curve that awaited us. With turbos everything has to be perfect or they don't build boost. After 4 races we were still lost even though we were getting some good help. Add a FI system into the mix and it gets even tougher. Finally, it all came together for us and we are now hauling azz. Turbos work but they have very little forgiveness.

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: BobR] #767214
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WOW.........That is a thrash and a 1/2

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: RyanJ] #767215
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FIVE DAYS on the dyno..... 49 Pulls later I think we have a handle on this thing (although I'm going to put at least 2 more pulls on Monday Morning LOL)




GOOD GOD O-MIGHTY! LOL! Ryan, it needs a rebuild already! Nice work, thats a nice hot rod too.....

Wes

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: EvilB1Dart] #767216
08/07/10 08:19 PM
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Thanks for the write up Ryan! Congrats on getting it all together as well, I cant wait to hear how it performs in the car.

How much boost and power do you expect on pump gas along? Will you be running it on the 112 or pump fuel once in the car?

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: fishy340] #767217
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Quote:

curiousity question how much would a a piece like that run for?




Carb to pan, with turbo & plumbing I have about $21,000 in it, not counting any of my labor.

I won't be running this on pump gas... maybe do a mix when wastegate is set @ 8 PSI for some street use.

The exhaust out of turbo all runs through inner fender... currently 5" but we are re-doing that in 4" for more tire clearance.

This motor will make as much power as you are willing to put boost into it. I'm just about @ my personal limits... I don't want to put any more than 15 PSI in it, but if you put a 96 MM on it, cranked it up to 20+ with better fuel, I bet it would make 1150-1200 TQ pretty easy down low & make in the 1300-1400 HP range up top. I'm not comfortable putting that much power through this crankshaft. I'm not class racing, I don't need every last HP. I'll try to keep it alive & be happy winging it around on street having fun.

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: RyanJ] #767218
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im already planning my 48deg w9 (my mopar disease),and with those streets near you, be careful,you'll suck a wood chuck through the turbo,lol well great post u da man!

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: fishy340] #767219
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im already planning my 48deg w9 (my mopar disease),and with those streets near you, be careful,you'll suck a wood chuck through the turbo,lol well great post u da man!




They're called groundhogs in Pennsylvania & yeah I'll need to put a screen type filter on it to avoid sucking in small animals & children.... Guy here in State College has twins on a 406 GM & it sucked his ECU wiring harness into the turbos LOL.

& if I do a W9 motor for you it will have same heads on it this has.... may enlarge intake runner a bit, but other than that this is great head for the $.

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: RyanJ] #767220
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Good post.
" detail.
" results.

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: RyanJ] #767221
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no question its just a matter of time before you build my w9 ,and or your turbo sucks in a democrat or a chipmunk

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: fishy340] #767222
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You ever going to get smart and go EFI?

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: fishy340] #767223
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that is definately a bad azz set up and there isnt many cars that look as mean as a 70 bee! congrats Ryan and a great write up for sure.


67 Coronet 383 hogged out 906's 727 430 dana best 10.48 @126.80 1.47 60 on fogger same car pump gas 605 wedge 9.98 @ 138.42 1.50 60 on wore out 9 inch radial slick ss springs and frame connectors its got more in it!!! 72 Newport 2 door 400 727 85 Ram 440 4 speed O/D 3.54 dana
Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: CokeBottleKid] #767224
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You ever going to get smart and go EFI? hey coke you ever a pass in that low 8 sec b body

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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: all spooled up] #767225
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Took us only three races this summer to find out why the engine misfires; a faulty water temp sensor that put a safety limiter on at times! The EFI is great! Hoiwever, once it works you can't beat it. I'm not that keen on using the laptop either, but if you like playing with one, you can do a LOT of things with the EFI that you can't with a carb, and without spilling fuel. Maybe we just had christmas when building our engine, but I have not seen anything difficult with the turbos. Just use quality parts where needed, sensibly sized, and common sence should handle the rest.


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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Motor On Dyno (LONG) [Re: jyrki] #767226
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So you like these heads better then the RP's? How much larger are the ports compared to "as cast"?

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