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Re: Procharged Duster (video) & breakage [Re: 72swgnr] #757997
07/28/10 11:28 PM
07/28/10 11:28 PM
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Lubbock,TX
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Hope it wasnt too bad. I hope to have a chance to see you run this year.

Re: Procharged Duster (video) & breakage [Re: DavidDean] #757998
07/29/10 01:32 AM
07/29/10 01:32 AM
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bronx n.y
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That thing is bad azzzzz

Re: Procharged Duster (video) & breakage [Re: W8n2DustU] #757999
07/29/10 01:16 PM
07/29/10 01:16 PM
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sweden
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sorry to hear this,hope its not to bad,on a more positive note sounds and runs great!

Re: Procharged Duster (video) & breakage [Re: 1Fast340] #758000
07/29/10 01:58 PM
07/29/10 01:58 PM
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North Cackilacky
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That Procharger set-up makes good power but everyone I know that has one, has had horrible valvetrain trouble with the gear drives. And the gears themselves in the gear drive your deff not the only one. Steve always breaks the valves right above the keeper. I t got so bad he bought an extra complete head so they could just swap heads when one broke.


One day I will have something cool here.
Re: Procharged Duster (video) & breakage [Re: sdaurity] #758001
07/29/10 02:48 PM
07/29/10 02:48 PM
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Odessa, Tx.
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Quote:

That Procharger set-up makes good power but everyone I know that has one, has had horrible valvetrain trouble with the gear drives. And the gears themselves in the gear drive your deff not the only one. Steve always breaks the valves right above the keeper. I t got so bad he bought an extra complete head so they could just swap heads when one broke.



Why would that be hard on the valvetrain?

Re: Procharged Duster (video) & breakage [Re: cudarex] #758002
07/29/10 06:14 PM
07/29/10 06:14 PM
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Sherwood park, Alberta.
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Sherwood park, Alberta.
Making power will find the weak link every time .
You know where the failure happened ,, try to figure out the why ( physical properties , bad geometry ,parts flexing ,ECT ) and move on .

Four second cars do not fall from trees , you have to work for it.

Fix it and hit it hard.



6.50 @ 226 MPH 4.25 @ 186 MPH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX86DHGKBo0
Re: Procharged Duster (video) & breakage [Re: cudarex] #758003
07/29/10 06:37 PM
07/29/10 06:37 PM
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sweden
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Quote:

Quote:

That Procharger set-up makes good power but everyone I know that has one, has had horrible valvetrain trouble with the gear drives. And the gears themselves in the gear drive your deff not the only one. Steve always breaks the valves right above the keeper. I t got so bad he bought an extra complete head so they could just swap heads when one broke.



Why would that be hard on the valvetrain?




i would say that the geardrive transmits and creates some cracy harmonics that get all out of hand at this level,not that i have any kind of experience with this just a thought that hit me

Re: Procharged Duster (video) & breakage [Re: W8n2DustU] #758004
07/29/10 11:52 PM
07/29/10 11:52 PM
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Peru
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mopar
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Peru
Nice car sorry to hear that my titaniun is strong in tensible tests,it has good high temperature strength and is lighter than steel but titaniun has certain disadvantage is amongst the worst bering material imaginable it has a propensity to weld at the slightest provocation to anything that rubs against it.A bet you use ceramic titaniun intake valves they can stand enormous temperatures without any degradation aditionally it doest conduct heat well.so it is good for an intake valve.However they are strong in compression and a valves main stresses are in tension an area where they failed abysmaily

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Re: Procharged Duster (video) & breakage [Re: cbarracuda] #758005
07/30/10 09:53 AM
07/30/10 09:53 AM
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San Angelo, Texas
W8n2DustU Offline OP
super stock
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Actually appears to be caused by the intake seat falling out! Looks as though it may have came out and lodged in the exhaust valve. Causing the piston to hit the valve and breaking the head off the valve. Head is being repaired now, piston on order, and everything else is being inspected!


2010 Toxic Orange Challenger built by B and B Racecars! All aluminum R4/P5 engine, Proformance TH400 (3 speed) tranny, full Reid case, nodular 9" rearend, full Dragpak suspension, Protorque custom converter, BS3, PTE 85mm turbo, fire core wires, carbon doors, carbon front clip, and a whole lot more!
Re: Procharged Duster (video) & breakage [Re: W8n2DustU] #758006
07/30/10 09:58 PM
07/30/10 09:58 PM
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Bend,OR USA
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Quote:

Actually appears to be caused by the intake seat falling out! Looks as though it may have came out and lodged in the exhaust valve. Causing the piston to hit the valve and breaking the head off the valve. Head is being repaired now, piston on order, and everything else is being inspected!


If you don't have Berilieum(SP?) seats in the heads now you may want to switch to them now with the Ti valves


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: Procharged Duster (video) & breakage [Re: Cab_Burge] #758007
07/30/10 10:04 PM
07/30/10 10:04 PM
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Roanoke Va
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mopar
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Roanoke Va
Marty, sorry to hear about the damage to the motor. Looks like the car was running great though. Hope you get it fixed quickly.

Donald


69 Dart swinger 417 W8 Liberty 5 speed
6.03 @114/9.49 @141 on motor 5.30 @131 on juice 1/8th mile 28x10.5's at 3200lbs
70 Challenger RT 440 4-speed 4:10 Dana

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