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MSD distributor lockout kit #750916
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I was told that to lockout my MSD big block distributor I need to buy a lockout kit. Does anyone have the part number for this? I can't find it anywhere. Or is a kit not needed?


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Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: ProSport] #750917
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Not needed on mine. Drive the roll pin out. Pick the plate up, turn 180*'s (I think) and drop th pin in the hole. Drive the roll pin back in and it's locked.

Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: WILD BILL] #750918
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Not needed on mine. Drive the roll pin out. Pick the plate up, turn 180*'s (I think) and drop th pin in the hole. Drive the roll pin back in and it's locked.





This....No kit needed.

Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: abodiesonly1] #750919
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Pretty easy to do... I locked mine out and have a stage 3 retard system...




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Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: moparniac] #750920
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Thanks guys, I recognize that diagram so I think I asked this same question awhile back. I'll get it locked out this weekend.


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Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: ProSport] #750921
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Bob if it's set up right it wont make any difference.

Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: moparniac] #750922
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Pretty easy to do... I locked mine out and have a stage 3 retard system...







I'm not a big fan of that msd model, had the lockout pin break on the roadster and wipe out the reluctor

You can get the welded shaft from msd for that dizzy pretty reasonably priced or at the very least I would pull the shaft and weld it yourself in the locked position and do away with the pin altogether.

Rickster

Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: Quicktree] #750923
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Quicktree, just having a timing issue, we're gonna see if this helps.

Well that sucks about the pin breaking.


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Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: ProSport] #750924
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bob i have the stops in there and locked out timing... its solid!


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Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: ProSport] #750925
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You may want to phase the distributor to prevent ring gear damage after the lock out especially using a start retard
http://www.msdignition.com/instructions/...s=rotor+phasing

Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: Dodgem] #750926
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Where did the diagram go? I don't see it on this thread anymore.

I have the MSD Pro Billet distributor part #8545. I removed the small pin at the bottom of the distributor and pulled the shaft out of the main body. But it seems like this distributor looks different inside than that diagram.


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Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: ProSport] #750927
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Here's a pic, click on it to enlarge....................

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just go to medignition.com and look it up. you can print it.

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Take the rotor off and you will see it as in the diagram.

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Well, I got it apart and it's already been welded up, so I didn't need to do any of this tonite. I put it all back together and I'll reset my timing tomorrow. Now I'm really confused as to why I'm having this small timing issue. I have to set the timing at 39 at idle, to get 35 total when revving or just bringing the RPM's up. It didn't use to be like this so I'm not sure what changed. Cam shouldn't be moving forward with the cam button and timing cover brace.


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Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: ProSport] #750931
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Could the chain be streached?

Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: ProSport] #750932
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bob I just unhooked my stage 3 retard system and it had 4* to it.... one guy noted thats how its setup,, yiou have the 7AL 3 right? see below

Note: The MSD 7AL-3 will retard the ignition timing approximately 4° compared to other MSD Ignitions. After installation, the timing should always be checked and adjusted at idle and total timing.

http://www.msdignition.com/uploadedFiles/MSDIgnitioncom/Products/Ignitions/7230_instructions.pdf


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Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: moparniac] #750933
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Timing chain was checked, it's fine but that was a good idea.

Thanks Sledge, I do remember someone mentioning the 4 degree deal but I guess I just couldn't make myself believe it since I've never ever seen that before.
That's actually not a good setup to have on the street since the timing has to be at 39 at idle.
But I did install the retard module selector this week so I'm good to go, I can flick the toggle switch and drive around at 30 total.


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Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: ProSport] #750934
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Bob, sell the MSD and switch to ours.. Many problems will be solved... Could probably sell the unit for the same cost of one of ours.. You know I love you guys...


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Re: MSD distributor lockout kit [Re: sunroofgtx] #750935
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Bob, sell the MSD and switch to ours.. Many problems will be solved... Could probably sell the unit for the same cost of one of ours.. You know I love you guys...




Hi Rick, I thought about that til I found out it's the 7al3 box that retards 4 degrees at higher RPM. The distributor actually works good. I'll put your setup in my next car for sure.


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