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Re: Yet another Dana 60 post! Need help w/ ?
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07/14/10 02:29 AM
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Early A bodies have just about the same width rear frame rails as later model A's.
Also, I believe Dana center sections are about 17.5". Thats going off memory though.
Factory frame rails may indeed be the same, but the car itself is much narrower. So to put the same tire under and early A body, requires the rails to be closer together................But no matter, it appears he has it figured out and the brackets will be on the tubes of the Dana. I personally would rather have the 9", but to each their own.
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Re: Yet another Dana 60 post! Need help w/ ?
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07/14/10 10:27 AM
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Early A bodies have just about the same width rear frame rails as later model A's.
Also, I believe Dana center sections are about 17.5". Thats going off memory though.
Factory frame rails may indeed be the same, but the car itself is much narrower. So to put the same tire under and early A body, requires the rails to be closer together................
Monte
Not so sure of that. Having had both, I know that the max tire I could fit was equal with both my 66 A body and 72 A body.
You made me curious though because I never measured the difference. According to this site, the 66 Dart is actually wider than the 70 swinger. Maybe Valiants are different?
http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/dart.html
I think the only thing narrower about early A's is the width of the factory front frame rails.
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Re: Yet another Dana 60 post! Need help w/ ?
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07/15/10 04:37 PM
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Truck Dana, 29 inch outside to outside, too little room but run 2079-1 Goodyears with 17.8 section width.
Hey Greg. What's your frame dimensions since yours is also a 65 Dart? Also, did you open up the size of your rear wheel openings? How about the fronts to run bigger front tires for better roll out?
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Re: Yet another Dana 60 post! Need help w/ ?
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07/15/10 05:34 PM
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My rails are 2x3 mounted with a 29 inch outside of rail to outside of rail demension. This gives me enough room for a 17 inch section width.
Like I said, that is less that optimum, and I would go 24 inch os to os next time to be able to run any tire I want. Fronts are an issue. I run a 25 inch tall tire, and that is all that will fit. I can't remember what fit well when the front was stock, but it wasn't very big! I can't remember if I had to trim the front lips of the fenders for stock suspension and the 25 inch tires or If I did that after the chassis upgrade.
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Re: Yet another Dana 60 post! Need help w/ ?
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07/15/10 09:22 PM
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My rails are 2x3 mounted with a 29 inch outside of rail to outside of rail demension. This gives me enough room for a 17 inch section width.
Like I said, that is less that optimum, and I would go 24 inch os to os next time to be able to run any tire I want. Fronts are an issue. I run a 25 inch tall tire, and that is all that will fit. I can't remember what fit well when the front was stock, but it wasn't very big! I can't remember if I had to trim the front lips of the fenders for stock suspension and the 25 inch tires or If I did that after the chassis upgrade.
Wow that's tight! With my mock up slicks 18.4" (spec, not actual) section width against the quarter panels, there is only 29 1/2 inches between them!
I measured 65" between quarters. 1 inch clearance each side of tire = 4
65 - (18.4 x 2) - 4 = 24.2 or 24 inch frame width
or 65 - (17 x 2) -4 = 27 or 26 inch frame width
I plan on using slightly narrower slicks 32 x 14 that will have between 16.5 to 17" section width depending on brand, but thought extra room would be nice encase I wanted to go faster down the road and needed more tire.
wedgie over on forabodiesonly stretched his front wheel openings to run a 28 inch front.
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Re: Yet another Dana 60 post! Need help w/ ?
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07/15/10 10:27 PM
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FWIW- I've got 205/75/15s on the front of my 66 and they fit fine.
What is that, about 27 inches? I don't think it would be worth it to me to do all that work on the fender for one more inch.
Is that a stock front suspension?
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Re: Yet another Dana 60 post! Need help w/ ?
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07/15/10 11:31 PM
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My rails are 2x3 mounted with a 29 inch outside of rail to outside of rail demension. This gives me enough room for a 17 inch section width.
Like I said, that is less that optimum, and I would go 24 inch os to os next time to be able to run any tire I want. Fronts are an issue. I run a 25 inch tall tire, and that is all that will fit. I can't remember what fit well when the front was stock, but it wasn't very big! I can't remember if I had to trim the front lips of the fenders for stock suspension and the 25 inch tires or If I did that after the chassis upgrade.
Wow that's tight! With my mock up slicks 18.4" (spec, not actual) section width against the quarter panels, there is only 29 1/2 inches between them!
I measured 65" between quarters. 1 inch clearance each side of tire = 4
65 - (18.4 x 2) - 4 = 24.2 or 24 inch frame width
or 65 - (17 x 2) -4 = 27 or 26 inch frame width
I plan on using slightly narrower slicks 32 x 14 that will have between 16.5 to 17" section width depending on brand, but thought extra room would be nice encase I wanted to go faster down the road and needed more tire.
wedgie over on forabodiesonly stretched his front wheel openings to run a 28 inch front.
I have less than 1/2 inch anywhere tire to frame or fenders. I did remove the fender lip, and with very careful monitoring, get away with it, but I don't recommend it!
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Re: Yet another Dana 60 post! Need help w/ ?
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07/16/10 01:14 AM
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My rails are 2x3 mounted with a 29 inch outside of rail to outside of rail demension. This gives me enough room for a 17 inch section width.
Like I said, that is less that optimum, and I would go 24 inch os to os next time to be able to run any tire I want. Fronts are an issue. I run a 25 inch tall tire, and that is all that will fit. I can't remember what fit well when the front was stock, but it wasn't very big! I can't remember if I had to trim the front lips of the fenders for stock suspension and the 25 inch tires or If I did that after the chassis upgrade.
Wow that's tight! With my mock up slicks 18.4" (spec, not actual) section width against the quarter panels, there is only 29 1/2 inches between them!
I measured 65" between quarters. 1 inch clearance each side of tire = 4
65 - (18.4 x 2) - 4 = 24.2 or 24 inch frame width
or 65 - (17 x 2) -4 = 27 or 26 inch frame width
I plan on using slightly narrower slicks 32 x 14 that will have between 16.5 to 17" section width depending on brand, but thought extra room would be nice encase I wanted to go faster down the road and needed more tire.
wedgie over on forabodiesonly stretched his front wheel openings to run a 28 inch front.
32x14s will take you as fast as you will ever want to go, look at how fast some of those 10.5 outlaw cars go. Just crazy!
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Re: Yet another Dana 60 post! Need help w/ ?
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07/16/10 10:43 AM
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FWIW- I've got 205/75/15s on the front of my 66 and they fit fine.
What is that, about 27 inches? I don't think it would be worth it to me to do all that work on the fender for one more inch.
Is that a stock front suspension?
Yeah, they are about 27". The wheel openings on a 65 must be smaller. Strange... Mine is converted to coilovers in front, but the wheels are in the stock position.
I would think the first place it would rub would be on the front lip. You could just trim the front edge a little I guess.
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