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Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds #743277
07/08/10 01:20 AM
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Let's hear some "exotic" motor builds out there. It seems everyone is building Indy headed 'small' blocks now adays,I've got one myself; but I think there is more potential in the W series race heads... Let's hear about some of them-Andy

Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: 340_Dart] #743278
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Mine is a pretty simple W-9... Chapman CNC ported
heads, 9.2 deck 48* siamese block, 50mm cam .700
lift 276/284 @50 112LSA, 14.1:1 CP pistons, 4.125 bore
with a 3.79 billet crank... 420 intake with a 1050
dom on E-85, the only trick thing on my engine is the
dry sump oiling system... I wish I would have gone
with the bigger bore to unshroud the valve... plus
I need more cam, would like about .100 more lift...
currently its a 405ci


Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: MR_P_BODY] #743279
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Mine is in progress , but is vaguely similar to Mike's.
9" deck and 4.125 X 3.79.
The short block was bought on ebay and advertised as a tall deck , which would have given me a lot more options to change things around.
But after the hassle and wait I went through before I finally got it ( I could turn this into a bash Rick Liuzzo fest right about now......I'm still not over it or happy with the result ), I decided to forge ahead and make the best out of it.
So it will be using a 6" rod ( Crower ) and should be in the 13.5 : 1 neighborhood.
I will also be burning E-85
The heads are being done by a local guy ........another thing I would do differently.
He is very good , but not MoParcentric......and he has a boat load of customers which I think has back burnered my deal more than once.
I have a blank cam core ( solid roller )that will be sent to Bullet once I get some flow numbers.
I have an early block with the babbitt cam bearings.
Wet sump with a Stef's pan........oiling through pushrods to 1.6 T&D rockers.
It will have reverse flow cooling with a remote water pump.
I am maybe more interested in reliability than all out performance , so I am looking for strong flow numbers through the mid lift and relatively tame cam specs to make it easy on parts.
I am leaning on a H.P. 950 done up by Rob Mix , a local E-85 guru.
I plan on streeting this thing a fair bit , so I had to compromise a little bit on how radical I went with certain aspects of the build.
I think it is a lot easier to build one or the other.......at least some of the choices I had to make would have been made for me by past experience of others.

Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: tubtar] #743280
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What kind of RPM are you guys running those motors @ 405ci?

Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: 340_Dart] #743281
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What kind of RPM are you guys running those motors @ 405ci?




I normally turn 8000 to 8200... has been mid 9000
but didnt make power up there... later I dynoed it
and I make peak at 8100

Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: 340_Dart] #743282
07/08/10 08:46 AM
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I had a W8 engine almost finished, it was just getting too costly and I really wanted to go R5/P7 anyway. Rick Liuzzo helped me out a bunch with the deal.
The combo was:
9.0" Deck Block
4.125" bore
3.25" Bryant Crank
15:1 JE Piston by Rebco
Groden Aluminium Rods
W8 13 degree by CFE
CFE Sheet metal intake
Single 1050 Dominator
Weber Belt drive
Jesel Front drive Distributor
Jesel 1.75/1.6:1 Mohawk rockers
Comp 60mm Roller 0.488" lobe, 275 @ 0.050" on a 110 l/s
Moroso 5 Stage Pan with an AutoVerdi 6 Stage Pump

With that lobe separation the peak RPM would have been around 8800RPM. When Rick and I first started talking the combo out he was talking more around a 113-115 l/s that would have seen the tacho shoot to around 9000-9500RPM. I didn't see myself being able to afford the Valve Spring bill for the year, so it was toned down a little.

The heads were decent, but weren't a maxed out Pro Stock Truck head, so the engine would have made low 800's at best.


Alan Jones
Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: LA360] #743283
07/08/10 08:53 AM
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Still in the making got slowed down due to my accident at PINKS.
392 cubic inches
3.79 Crankshaft
R1 race block 4.060 bore
6.5 alluminum rods
420 intake
W7 chapman CNC heads
roller cam ???
T.D. rockers
J.E. Pistons
Shooting for 700 plus horsepower.

Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: LA360] #743284
07/08/10 09:16 AM
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Mine is:

8.8 deck
4.185 bore
3.55 stroke
cfe heads and intake
15-1
mgp rods
dual da vinci dominators
weber belt drive
jesel front dist
bullet 5o mm cam
psi springs
moroso 5 stage pump
home made drysump to fit valiant chassis

900+ hp but not dynoed since last version was built
shift rpm around 9000 max 9600...


-65 Valiant,420", all motor,2700#, dot tires, 8,42 @ 160,2
Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: mafo] #743285
07/08/10 11:06 AM
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My junk

4.185 bore 3.750 stroke
Dry sump oiling
Chapman W7 heads
Mopar perf. intake
1050 dominator carb
Weber belt drive
Comp cams roller


Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: SB412DUSTER] #743286
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This engine was in my Demon. Still is.

474 CI R3/W9 11:1, small solid roller, set up mostly for the street. Best uncorrected time was 9.92 @ 133 in Phoenix, AZ.

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Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: Ron Silva] #743287
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This engine was in my Demon. Still is.

474 CI R3/W9 11:1, small solid roller, set up mostly for the street. Best uncorrected time was 9.92 @ 133 in Phoenix, AZ.




I LOVED THAT DEMON!!!!!! Whats the specs on the roller cam??

Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #743288
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I think it was 262 and 268 @.050 and .630 lift (w/1.5 rocker). 108 LSA installed at 104 Int CL.


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Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: 340_Dart] #743289
07/08/10 09:20 PM
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My junk!

417" R3/W8 NITROUS MOTOR
9.16" DECK, 48* SIAMESE BORE, R3 BLOCK, 4.185" BORE
CALLIES DRAGON SLAYER 3.79 STROKE CRANKSHAFT
PRO GRAM BILLET MAIN CAPS
50MM CAM TUNNEL
COMETIC HEAD GASKETS
BUSHED LIFTER BORES
GRP ALUMINUM RODS 5.90"
DIAMOND CUSTOM NITROUS PISTONS
W8 CNC COLEMAN/ARRINGTON HEADS W/ TITANIUM VALVES
T&D MACHINE 1.60 RATIO ROCKERS
ISKY ROLLER LIFTERS
CRANE/MONTE SMITH CUSTOM NITROUS SOLID ROLLER CAMSHAFT
MILODON GEAR DRIVE
MP 9.20" DECK TIMING COVER
ATI BALANCER
MP '598 WILSON PORTED INTAKE W/ MONTE SMITH FOGGER
KENT RITTER FAB. ALUMINUM VALVE COVERS
CHARLIES FAB. ALUMINUM CUSTOM OIL PAN
MSD DISTRIBUTOR
MSD CRANK TRIGGER
STOCK CAR PRODUCTS OIL PUMP
MOROSO 3 VANE VACUUM PUMP W/ REGULATOR


Mike Gray

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Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: Plumb Wired] #743290
07/08/10 09:21 PM
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My other junk!

430" R3/W8 TURBO/PROCHARGER MOTOR
9.20" DECK, 48* SIAMESE BORE, R3 BLOCK 4.250" BORE
MP BILLET 3.79 STROKE CRANKSHAFT
BCR BILLET 4 BOLT ALUMINUM CAPS
50 MM CAM TUNNEL
ORINGED DECK W/ COPPER GASKETS
BUSHED LIFTER BORES
BME 500 SERIES ALUMINUM RODS 6.00"
VENOLIA CUSTOM TURBO PISTONS
W8 CNC COLEMAN/ARRINGTON HEADS W/ TITANIUM VALVES
JESEL ROCKERS
COMP CAMS ROLLER LIFTERS
CRANE/CAM MOTION CUSTOM TURBO SOLID ROLLER CAMSHAFT
MP/ALBERT RACING ENGINES CUSTOM TIMING COVER
WEBER BELT DRIVE
ATI BALANCER
MOROSO FAB. ALUMINUM VALVE COVERS
CHARLIES FAB. ALUMINUM CUSTOM OIL PAN
MSD DISTRIBUTOR & WIRES
MSD CRANK TRIGGER
PETERSEN CUSTOM DRIVE MANDREL

Mike Gray


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Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: Plumb Wired] #743291
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Mike, is the 417 the motor currently in donalds dart? What's it run off the spray?

Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: mafo] #743292
07/09/10 08:34 AM
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Almost ready:

R3 48# 9.2 deck
Mopar billet crank 3.55"
Lemans W8 heads
Belt drive
SMRE cam
C&S aerosol billet 950 tuned to E85
With F3 procharger

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Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: mopar396] #743293
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Andy, best so far on motor in the summer heat 6.03 @ 114mph / 9.49 @ 141mph, 3180#. Keep in mind the camshaft in this motor it likes the N2O. Now if we can just get it to 60ft.

Mike Gray


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Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: Plumb Wired] #743294
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416 inch W8

9.0 deck R3 358WC block
LA enterprises kryptonite crank
grp aluminum rods
diamond pistons,titanium wrist pins
pro stock ring pack
10 degree CFE W8 heads pro stock
weber belt drive
jesel rockers 1.9
60mm cam tunnel
60mm LSM swap fire cam
fully ported 420 intake
2.19 bore CFM carb
peterson external oil system
star vacuum pump

haven't seen it in awhile..lol

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Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: FASTFISH420] #743295
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anybody wanna add to this


footbrake N/A SB 408 Scamp 10.10 @ 132 street/strip
73 Duster 340 street strip 12.79 @ 105
Re: Let's hear some W7,W8,and W9 builds [Re: Stroker Scamp] #743296
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anybody wanna add to this



O.K.
477ci solid alum block/sleeved to 4.180... no water here!
diamond pistons/ 15.2
4.125 crank
GRP rods/peterson pump/stefs oil pail/hamburger pan
Nickens built sheet metal intake w/2- toilets on VP's M5
CFE's magic on solid W-8's/ jesel's 1.6 rockers on top
SCE's W/8 covers
2-2 1/8 stepped headers made locally and ceramic coated.
dyno'd..1022hp and 681 tq.
Haven't got a chance to play yet.

Dave

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