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Re: help build me a 9.40 car !!! [Re: Bob_Coomer] #738374
07/04/10 10:29 AM
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I'm no expert on this combo but I do have a observation. There are a number of nostalgia cars that run in this range with a less efficienct intake and carb set-up. Most are heavier and run more cubes. Why not twist the smaller motor with more cam,gear,and converter? Yes it will be down on torque but should be able to make the same power. Take Nick Wilsons 64 Belvedere. 3700+,SR heads,572",Indy intake and Carters. It normally will run in this E.T.range or quicker. His combo would have less cubes at 300# lighter with more intake and carb. Am I wrong?
Doug

Re: help build me a 9.40 car !!! [Re: Bob_Coomer] #738375
07/04/10 10:42 AM
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Fact is it takes a good effort to run 9.40's with 440-1 heads at 3000+ lbs... Im sorry but 9.70's isnt no where close to 9.40's.



A high 9 second car is a good achievement, but to get it in the 9.20-9.40 range is a lot harder than you might think. IMO, at 3300 lbs many of the parts used to run 9.80-10.50 need to be changed. And many people can't stomach spending the money to make wholesale changes like that. Custom headers for example to use a 500+ CID engine in an A-body to max advantage.


1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: help build me a 9.40 car !!! [Re: EJ440] #738376
07/04/10 10:51 AM
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500 rb cid,13:1 ,Indy - 1 fully ported heads,the car is 3300lbs with diver. ladder bar coil over,13/31 slicks' 4.88 gear. 5500 CONVERTER. ...in an A body.
... heads flow about 370
...706/693 274/277 @50 cut on 108 in @103.the best I got out was 10.40 move it to 106 and it went 10.05




When trying to make improvements, I like to work from the existing combo and timeslip to target improvments.
What are all the other parts of your combo and a timeslip?
Header size x length
Intake
Carb
Timeslip data

If that is the cam you are running, I think it is too mild for 500 CID, 13 CR. Look at what Greg suggested for comparison.

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