Re: EBODY 3SPEED WIPER PARK POSITION
[Re: kingkt]
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06/19/10 12:34 AM
06/19/10 12:34 AM
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Evil Monkey
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I'm going off some old memories, but I had my 3 speed wiper on my Cuda break on me back in the '90's so that it would not go into Park. It was fairly easy to pull apart and figure out what the problem was, and I found the part I needed to repair it in a junkyard. Here's what I remember: There is a nylon gear inside the wiper unit that has a track in it, and when the wiper is in one of the 3 speed settings, the gear rotates in one direction (at different speeds for each setting), and the track in the gear connects to the arm on the outside of the wiper unit, which connects to the wiper linkage and causes the wipers to go back and forth. When you turn the wipers off, you are not killing the power to the wiper motor, what is happening is you are reversing the motor, which causes the nylon gear to reverse. The wipers will instantly stop and move in the other direction when this happens (if the wipers were halfway through their sweep going down when you turn the switch to the off position, they will instantly start moving up). There is a small tab in the track in the nylon gear, and when the internal piece that connects the gear to the outer arm hits this tab, it causes it to go into a small 'side' track that has a shorter radius than the 'normal' track. The gear is orientated so that this 'side' track comes in play when the wipers are at the bottom of their travel. Going into the 'side' track is what actually parks the wipers - the shorter radius of the 'side' track causes the wipers to go down further in to the park position. Once it goes a short distance down the 'side' track, it will bump against a set of breaker points, opening the points and killing the power to the wiper motor. The 3 'forward' speeds for the wiper motor do not go through the breaker points, so when you turn the wipers back on, the wiper motor spins in it's 'forward' direction, it will come out of the 'side' track into the 'normal' track, and the wipers will run back and forth. What happened when mine broke, was the small tab on the nylon gear broke off. When I turned the power off to the wipers, the motor reversed, but it never went into the 'side' track, so the wipers just went back and forth in reverse, never parking and never shutting off. And, wipers going back and forth in reverse look just like wipers going back and forth in forward, so it was very hard to tell what was really going on until I took it apart and reverse engineered it. When I figured out that the tab had broken off of the nylon gear, I found another gear in a junkyard and replaced it, and my wipers have worked fine since. Hopefully this makes sense - it's a long winded explaination that would be much easier to explain if I had a picture of the nylon gear so I could draw arrows and circles on it
1974 'Cuda 360/TKO
1990 Ram Van
1998 Neon
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Re: EBODY 3SPEED WIPER PARK POSITION
[Re: kingkt]
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06/20/10 01:42 PM
06/20/10 01:42 PM
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THANX FOR THE INFO. i looked it up and did the test. seems as tho the nos motor i installed is defective and wont park when tested. i have several other motors and found 1 that tested fine. i installed it and now the damn thing not only wont park but wont shut off. i disconnected the harness at the switch and it shut off i reconnect it while switch is off and the motor wont run but when i turn the switch it runs but wont shut off. and it wont park. and theres still no 3 speed to the motor. im determined top get this thing working right. but before buying a bunch of unneeded parts i hope there is one of you mopar guys who have the answer. thank you all. your help is very much appreciated! but i am abit frustrated at this damn thing.
if you have the switch pod hanging off the instrument panel while testing,remember to use a jumper cable between switch pod and ground,instead of the pod mounting screw(ground) thats not there when the pod,s not installed
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Re: EBODY 3SPEED WIPER PARK POSITION
[Re: kingkt]
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06/21/10 04:32 AM
06/21/10 04:32 AM
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Evil Monkey
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It sounds like the mismatched switch might be the problem then. If the motor parks fine when you bench test it, I would think it will work on the car too. I'm pretty sure the 3 speed motors are interchangable between all the years, but I don't know one way or the other if you can use a variable switch with the 3 speed wiring.
I don't know if it would be possible to trace the wires that you jumper during the bench test back to the switch, and then jumper them there at the switch connector. If you can, and the motor works correctly when you bench test it from the switch connector, then the problem would be isolated to the switch only.
1974 'Cuda 360/TKO
1990 Ram Van
1998 Neon
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Re: EBODY 3SPEED WIPER PARK POSITION
[Re: kingkt]
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06/22/10 05:37 AM
06/22/10 05:37 AM
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ConcoursCreation
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OK i'm officially confused You have: 3spd Motor 3spd/varspd switch Part # on crank that bolts to back of motor? Part # stamped in link that goes from crank over to drivers side wiper arm pivot? I suspect the crank and the link from what I read.... skimmed over...but like I said...I'm If you provide just this info we can get ya fixed.
Last edited by ConcoursCreation; 06/22/10 05:48 AM.
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