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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
[Re: gastongremlin]
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06/13/08 12:06 PM
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i don't know if this is 100% true all of the the time but the few i've seen were marked 440-6 on the flat area in front of the drivers side head area.
Back in the day, I was the second owner of a '70RR 440six pack and it did NOT have the "440-6" stamping. I remember this because someone looked at it one day and tried to tell me it wasn't a "real" -6. I still to this day know the original history, the original owner, and had driven the car soon after it was new.
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
[Re: 340SHORTY]
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06/13/08 12:09 PM
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it will have "  " logos all over it..
And the guy selling it will be asking $5000.00 for it and he'll know a friend of a friend who's cousin's uncle ordered the car new with that block......
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
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06/13/08 12:14 PM
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And to add to the confusion, the 70-71 440 HP 4-barrel and 6-pack engines share the same externally-balanced bottom end...
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
[Re: JohnRR]
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06/13/08 01:15 PM
06/13/08 01:15 PM
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Six pack car. How I came to my conclusion...
Either a coin toss, or the fact that you posted the pic, giving a slight edge to the fact that you took the picture BECAUSE it was a six pack
Ok, here's another block, same question 
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
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06/13/08 01:25 PM
06/13/08 01:25 PM
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Could it be that HP2 is a carry over from the earlier years Plymouths?
Amazing how an unchallenged lie can become the absolute truth.
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
[Re: gastongremlin]
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06/13/08 01:42 PM
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sure is a bunch of friendly people here. was just trying to be helpful. never claimed to be an expert, just passing on what i had been told over the years.
Did anyone insult you calling you stupid or an idiot? I sure didn't see anything of the sort. Relax. 
There are lots of old tales about HP engine that are incorrect. You posted at least one of them.
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
[Re: RobX4406]
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06/13/08 02:02 PM
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sure is a bunch of friendly people here. was just trying to be helpful. never claimed to be an expert, just passing on what i had been told over the years.
Did anyone insult you calling you stupid or an idiot? I sure didn't see anything of the sort. Relax.
There are lots of old tales about HP engine that are incorrect. You posted at least one of them.
it's a new one to me , never heard that one before .
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
[Re: beepbeep]
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06/13/08 02:02 PM
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Could it be that HP2 is a carry over from the earlier years Plymouths?
Would that be an old wives tale or a new one Beep?
*Besides, that would make it a 440 Hemi wouldn't it?
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
[Re: beepbeep]
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06/13/08 02:26 PM
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Nope, do you? Any basis for your guess? seriously, I thought you were joking on your first post, but in case you were not.... If you are referring to this emblem (picture below). A 1966 emblem only used on Hemi Plymouths (no Dodges) to identify that they had a 426 Hemi under the hood, and only used for the first half of the year because few people "got it". Then used/connected to later year (Dodge & Plymouths) to identify big block engines for some type of special High Performance usage? No, I don't see that as being very likely at all.. My opinion: Any 440 Blocks stamped HP meant nothing more than "High Performance Application", and "2" for Second Shift. That's all I make of it. 
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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06/13/08 02:38 PM
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It isn't a guess, it is a question. Read through the High Performance Package documentation.
Amazing how an unchallenged lie can become the absolute truth.
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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06/13/08 02:41 PM
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Scott ...just wondering in the photos you are posting -- where is that stamp located? Looks like it's not an exposed piece.
Thanks!
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
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06/13/08 02:43 PM
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Scott ...just wondering in the photos you are posting -- where is that stamp located? Looks like it's not an exposed piece.
Thanks!
Yes it's exposed, right on the top front drivers side of the block opposite the distributor on any raised block Mopar. somtimes it can be partially hidden by a bracket or air conditioning unit (or paint) but it's there to see.
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
[Re: DPelletier]
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06/13/08 02:48 PM
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.....especially when you espouse it as fact.
SURE would be nice if we could get that sticky I keep mentioning the last 4369 times we have had this thread discussion.....
...........all it needs to say is that THE ONLY WAY TO DETERMINE WHETHER A 440 BLOCK WAS ORIGINALLY INSTALLED IN A 6 PACK CAR IS TO MATCH THE PARTIAL VIN TO A LEGITIMATE 6 PACK CAR'S VIN.
Thats it.
Dave
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Re: How to determine a real Six-Pack block?
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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06/13/08 03:10 PM
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What does the arrow mean, the stamp that looks like a sideways letter A?. It's on my block too.
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