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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos.
[Re: DaveRS23]
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03/02/13 03:25 AM
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I just got my set-up fired up today. The fan works great! I even blocked the radiator with cardboard so that the temp would go up to 200* and the fan would wind up. When I removed the cardboard, the temp came right down to the point that the fan shut off.
I like this fan and controller combo. We've needed this for a long time.
How load was the fan on "high" to you, with the motor running?
Did you time how long it took to get from 200* till it shut off? 
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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos.
[Re: thehemikid]
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03/02/13 10:43 PM
03/02/13 10:43 PM
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I just got my set-up fired up today. The fan works great! I even blocked the radiator with cardboard so that the temp would go up to 200* and the fan would wind up. When I removed the cardboard, the temp came right down to the point that the fan shut off.
I like this fan and controller combo. We've needed this for a long time.
How load was the fan on "high" to you, with the motor running?
Did you time how long it took to get from 200* till it shut off?
The fan did not seem loud at all to me, but I have open headers right now. It did not take long to drop the temp, but I didn't time it. Even with the rad blocked 3/4s or more, the fan kept ramping up trying to maintain the temp and it took a good while for the temp to get up to 200*ish.
Although I have not had this out of the garage yet, it has excelled at every test I can figure to throw at it.
Master, again and still
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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos.
[Re: DaveRS23]
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03/03/13 01:15 AM
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Yeah, you want really know till you put the rest of the exhaust on.
The time frame: I know there's a lot of variables from car to car, was just looking for something to ~ go by.
I just tested the fan on a bench today, & it appears to move more air than my twin SPA's in My Cuda. That's what I was hoping for. Wish I had an Anemometer. I know speed & volume are 2 different things.
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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos.
[Re: thehemikid]
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03/03/13 02:05 PM
03/03/13 02:05 PM
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Yeah, you want really know till you put the rest of the exhaust on.
The time frame: I know there's a lot of variables from car to car, was just looking for something to ~ go by.
I just tested the fan on a bench today, & it appears to move more air than my twin SPA's in My Cuda. That's what I was hoping for. Wish I had an Anemometer. I know speed & volume are 2 different things.
I just got back from the Indy show with a few goodies. Some of which may get put into service today. I thought it was a good show. But I did hear several vendors say that there seemed to be plenty of people there, but that sales were slow.
I plan on working on the Dart today and may well be able to time the temp draw down while doing other things.
As a mine examiner I have experience with anemometers. Without knowing how much air it would take to cool a particular combo, air flow readings are not much help. In other words, you have to know how much air volume you need to do a job before you know what adjustments you must do to the volume you have.
Master, again and still
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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos.
[Re: feets]
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03/07/13 12:34 PM
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I am very happy with this fan and controller set-up. It all works as well as I had hoped. But I do need a little electrical help in one area.
I swapped in a constant voltage limiter to drive the temp and gas guages. It puts out almost exactly 5v. But both guages read a little high.
They read in the 3/4 range when they should be in the 1/4 range. Not too far off, but I would like to see if I can get them down a little.
Is it advisable to put a resistor between the limiter and the dash to drop the voltage a little? Just enough to drop the needles about 1/2 the width of the guages.
If so, could I get some advise on where to start with a resistor as to sizing. We have a Radio Shack nearby. They don't have much else, but do have a good selection of resistors.
Any help here would be appreciated.
Thank you!
Master, again and still
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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos.
[Re: DaveRS23]
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03/07/13 01:56 PM
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You might want to start a new thread about that one.
Andrewh has looked into that stuff more than I have but a new thread might draw people more familiar with it.
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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos.
[Re: feets]
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03/07/13 02:40 PM
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Are you using the stock sending unit, or are you using the controller to drive the temp gauge?
If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos.
[Re: hooziewhatsit]
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03/07/13 05:09 PM
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The controller.
I have about 1/4 tank of gas and the fuel guage reads 3/4. And when the engine is 170ish, the temp guage also reads about 3/4. I can ground their respective sender input leads and each guage will go all the way to their respective max. So the guages appear to work fine.
I just thought it would be easiest to experiment with a lower voltage to the guages, since they both seem to be a bit high. But then, I know little to nothing about this subject.
Master, again and still
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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos.
[Re: Andrewh]
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03/07/13 06:35 PM
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The VR is a small white ceramic unit. I don't remember who built it. The voltage is almost exactly 5v. The car is a 68 Dart. Access is pretty good and I believe that I have the room to do what I need to do there. I had a buddy recommend diode #1N4001 which should drop the voltage .6 or .7 volt without too much heat. I expect to have to experiment a little to get it where it needs to be, but I need a starting place. Thanks for the advice.
Master, again and still
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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos.
[Re: Andrewh]
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03/09/13 11:22 PM
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My plug & wires came in yesterday. A friend dropped them off today. The first thing I noticed was the grommet on the larger wires were smaller than their sockets.  Then I noticed the wire itself was smaller than what I had seen on this thread. ...  ...continued next post...
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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos.
[Re: rapom]
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03/11/13 04:59 PM
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The 36 number is the correct part. Those wires are not that thick but they have a heavy insulation.
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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos.
[Re: feets]
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03/11/13 08:56 PM
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The 36 number is the correct part. Those wires are not that thick but they have a heavy insulation.
...that was the conclusion I came to with the previous info of...
36=4mm...that would be ~.157"
37=6mm...that would be ~.236"
...then I knew it wasn't (most likely) the internal wire itself.
I do understand the 50 amp is a spike at start up & is not constant, but runs at ~39.
Thanks again!
Waiting now on if they will swap the 40's in on the 36's. 
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