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Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: gtx69] #723538
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I have not tried one yet I'm still on the fence as to even going to electric.


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: gtx69] #723539
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The aftermarket fans should work. They have to bolt in to the car just like the original. I assume they have the same type motor to provide similar function to the originals.

Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: feets] #723540
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Thanks feet for the other part number.If you will could you post it so others will know what they need. This way no hassle at the dealer like i had.I will be ordering my aftermarket tommorrow.I will post a picture of it.Price i got was $222.20 with one year replacment.

Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: gtx69] #723541
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Here are the part numbers for the heavy gauge wire and plastic plug:




The part number for the small wire is 000-540-38-05.

Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: John_Kunkel] #723542
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Thanks for the link.

Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: rapom] #723543
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Thanks for the info, feets. I'll be putting this on my Christmas list.

My 440 doesn't really like the 110+ temps in Arizona with my current e-fan setup: the ol' 3.8L Ford Taurus fan job. Fan moves enough air, but the shroud arrangement is not ideal at all. In fact, there is probably 40% of my total core that is open to the elements and not having the fan draw air across it.

You mentioned it before, but I'd like to bring it up again. For the price you pay through Summit or Jegs for one of those uber-expensive, poor fitting fans (300-400 bucks), you've still got to buy the relays and install them. Add to that the fact that it's been proven that a number of OEM applications sometimes move DOUBLE the air of those high dollar deals. Hell, my Taurus fan moves twice as much air as a black magic and cost 30 bucks.

When you say 26" radiator, is that measured width-wise, or diagonally?

I'll be shopping around for one of these bad dogs. Thanks.

Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: Pat_Whalen] #723544
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The Mopars either came with 22" or 26" radiators for years. You either got a little one or a big one. The measurement is taken across the width of the core, not the tank. The radiator I showed in the mock-up measures about 26-1/2" across the core. It's a 26" radiator. I think it's out of a New Yorker or something similar from the 70s.

Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: feets] #723545
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The Mopars either came with 22" or 26" radiators for years. You either got a little one or a big one. The measurement is taken across the width of the core, not the tank. The radiator I showed in the mock-up measures about 26-1/2" across the core. It's a 26" radiator. I think it's out of a New Yorker or something similar from the 70s.




I've got a big block Ramcharger. I can't imagine I'd have the smaller of the two.

Might just pick one of these up off of ebay.

Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: Pat_Whalen] #723546
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The trucks had a different shape to the radiator. They were narrower and taller. You may want to check that.

Tell me how wide and tall your radiator is and I'll measure the cracked fan shroud I've got sitting around.

Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: feets] #723547
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Got my fan today lists for $404.00.paid $222.20 through a friend with a shop.Lifetime warranty at LKQ.Thanks again feets will have it running by friday.Total cost with wires and fuses will be about $260.00 already had a control box installed.Switching from HHR to this fan.

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You sure didn't waste any time!
Be sure to wire it up properly. You can see the layout in my pics.
If you get the two large leads backwards it will smoke the wires without the fan running.
It does have a capacitor so expect a wee tiny spark when you disconnect/reconnect the battery. That's normal and won't hurt anything.

If you can put your radiator on a bench and fit the fan to it you'll have an easier time.

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Will be wiring it the same way you did.Will be running friday.Thanks again for the info.

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My radiator measures 26" across at the core, and 18" tall. 27.75 inches across to the shroud mounting studs.

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The studs will be too wide for the fan shroud unless they happen to fit where the tabs are. That would be a long shot for all four but maybe one pair might fit.

It would still fit across the core of the radiator. Simple brackets might be able to hold it to the core assuming the distance from the core wasn't too great.

I don't know of any Mercedes radiators that are wider. Maybe an S class?

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The studs will be too wide for the fan shroud unless they happen to fit where the tabs are. That would be a long shot for all four but maybe one pair might fit.

It would still fit across the core of the radiator. Simple brackets might be able to hold it to the core assuming the distance from the core wasn't too great.

I don't know of any Mercedes radiators that are wider. Maybe an S class?




So you're saying the entire shroud would be physically smaller than my core, but still cover it well enough? I wouldn't mind having to fab some brackets to hold it to the rad, I just don't want it to be sickeningly undersized (albeit my current taurus fan is).

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The fan shroud measures 16-3/4" tall and 26-3/4" wide.

Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: gtx69] #723554
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Got my fan today lists for $404.00.paid $222.20 through a friend with a shop.Lifetime warranty at LKQ.Thanks again feets will have it running by friday.Total cost with wires and fuses will be about $260.00 already had a control box installed.Switching from HHR to this fan.




What was that part number and who was the manufactuer? I talked to LKQ/Keystone the other day and they told me that they did not have a listing for that fan assembly. And I was surprised that the things were on the 'bag, but LKQ didn't have them. I'll call them back with the part number and see if they can get me one then.


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LKQ part no MB3000102 Cooling Module;01-07 C CLASS VARIOUS ENGINES/MODELS

Re: Monster electric cooling fan upgrade. long. w/photos. [Re: gtx69] #723556
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Well, that was quick! I'll call them tomorrow. Thank you.


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Which way is better to hook up the power.Alternator'battery or at the starter relay?What guage wire are you using 10 guage?

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