Re: Champion Radiators any good???
[Re: tahoechallenge]
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06/17/10 06:15 AM
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Thanks for starting this thread. I was just about to ask the same question about Champion radiators.
If it were a smaller price difference between Champion and Be Cool or Wizard of cooling I would just get the more expensive radiator, but there is such a major price difference that I'm thinking I just might try the Champion radiator.
tahoechallenge please keep us posted as I need a 22" for my Barracuda.
Phil
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Re: Champion Radiators any good???
[Re: enelson]
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06/21/10 11:34 PM
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I just wasted 1/2 a day trying to fit my new supposed "bolt-in" Champion 22" radiator in my 68 Cuda. It is twisted so when you get 3 bolts aligned the bracket for the 4th is 1/4-3/8" away from the core support and the core support is perfectly straight. The stock fan shroud is supposed to fit. Well it doesn't. Not even close. The Champion radiator core is over and inch shorter than the stock radiator so the shroud overlaps the radiator hoses and trans. cooler lines. To top it off the mounting holes don't line up correctly and there is barely enough metal to redrill the upper holes. Plus I'd have to use a fender washer on the drivers side lower bolt to catch enough of the radiator to make it hold and then it wouldn't be a good tight fit. I just e-mailed the seller and will see what comes of it.
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Re: Champion Radiators any good???
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06/21/10 11:36 PM
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Pic from above showing how it's twisted.
Last edited by fishy68; 06/21/10 11:37 PM.
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Re: Champion Radiators any good???
[Re: rook440]
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06/22/10 06:44 PM
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I just sent one back to them last week and got my money back ,,,the exact same thing the radiator was twisted about 3/4 of an inch ....looks like they just sent you my old one to be honest !!!!!!at least they will give your money back ,even tho I lost shipping one way ....31 dollars live and learn ........
Ok, fishy68 had a twisted 22" A-body application. What was your application?
I have an A-body 3-row 26" ordered and wondering if there might be a pattern of certain sizes/applicatons or just random issues.
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Re: Champion Radiators any good???
[Re: Hemi_Ram]
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06/24/10 08:52 PM
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I talked to Champion today. They are out of several of the more popular sizes. They expect some kind of double shipment next Tuesday. And plan to start shipping them next Wed or Thur. FYI
Master, again and still
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Re: Champion Radiators any good???
[Re: fishy68]
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06/25/10 08:09 PM
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I just wasted 1/2 a day trying to fit my new supposed "bolt-in" Champion 22" radiator in my 68 Cuda. It is twisted so when you get 3 bolts aligned the bracket for the 4th is 1/4-3/8" away from the core support and the core support is perfectly straight. The stock fan shroud is supposed to fit. Well it doesn't. Not even close. The Champion radiator core is over and inch shorter than the stock radiator so the shroud overlaps the radiator hoses and trans. cooler lines. To top it off the mounting holes don't line up correctly and there is barely enough metal to redrill the upper holes. Plus I'd have to use a fender washer on the drivers side lower bolt to catch enough of the radiator to make it hold and then it wouldn't be a good tight fit. I just e-mailed the seller and will see what comes of it.
The one you are showing looks like the one for a dart, and your shroud dose not look like mine, which is a 69 340 Cuda, it fit great with no probs. sorry your not pleased, i think you have the wrong rad. I have part # cc1635.
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Re: Champion Radiators any good???
[Re: Lew]
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06/25/10 10:21 PM
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The one you are showing looks like the one for a dart, and your shroud dose not look like mine, which is a 69 340 Cuda, it fit great with no probs. sorry your not pleased, i think you have the wrong rad. I have part # cc1635.
I didn't mention it but my Cuda has been switched over to the 70 and up style cooling package which has the inlet and outlet swapped from side to side. Your correct in that the new radiator is for a Dart. I ordered it for a 72 Dart to be exact because that's what the radiator that was in my car was out of and fit perfectly and the shroud bolted up to it correctly. The new radiator was supposed to be just like a 72 Dart V8 radiator but is made too short. The supplier I got it from told me (after he talked to Champion) that they had some problems with some A-body radiators being too tall so they started making them 2" shorter. He's trying to find an early one that's taller. If this one were 2" taller and straight it would work perfect. If it were a case where I screwed up and ordered the wrong radiator I would have just bitten the bullet.
BTW: The fellow I bought mine from seems like a straight shooter and trying to remedy the problem.
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Re: Champion Radiators any good???
[Re: moparjo68]
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06/25/10 10:34 PM
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Ok, I put a radiator in my truck from "www.radiator123.com"... It was an exact fit. And very inexpensive. I probably wouldn't buy it, if I had a show car... But it was perfect in terms of "keeping the truck cool"! Check it out, especially if you just have a "cruiser". My ... Tim...
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Re: Champion Radiators any good???
[Re: Lew]
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I just got a 375 last week and it was twisted. But not real bad and given the mods I will have to do to get the 26" radiator into an A body, I can deal with it. I don't think most guys would have used it, though.
Master, again and still
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