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Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: RaceCarRegistry] #715427
06/23/10 07:44 PM
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Congrats on hunting down Stewart's colt. Bet he's like a kid in a candy store finally knowing its whereabouts!!



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Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: RTSE4ME] #715428
06/23/10 08:20 PM
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I think this used to be a Romeo Palimedes car. Now it is going to be a Sox and Martin clone.




With so many S&M clones already out there, why not find out more about the history of the car and restore it?

Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: B Dartman] #715429
06/23/10 08:36 PM
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Thanks Bill, I've had the car for about 2 1/2 yrs now. Just this last year were we able to start on it. I traced it thru EVERY owner and finally found it up in them mountains of WV. Very people up to now even knew I had it. Very proud to have saved another piece of our racing heritage and even happier to have Dave Christie and Stewart P.'s help. Thru various friends, etc - have found some of the original parts off the car including -Lakewood/lenco bellhousing, Lenco shifter assy. (and possibly one of the Lenco's), complete Magnesium Dana, Dual-plug valve covers and inline twin-plug Dual-dist. and other misc. parts that diappeared off it over it's lifetime. It's a slow and costly project but well worth it. I believe it's the only known surviving Logghe-chassis'ed Colt left.
Many Thanks,
Reed in Neb.

Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: RaceCarRegistry] #715430
06/25/10 03:01 PM
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Here's some more pic's of Colts in this photo album.

Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: Race&Resto] #715431
06/27/10 10:39 PM
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Who had the Colt that was on the cover of Hot Rod or Car Craft circa 1971? All I can recall it was black with blue trim and it was one of the first Hemi Colts or might have been the first.

Zorian must have taken a liking to Colts after Stewart. They must be addictive.


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Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: mr_340] #715432
06/27/10 10:42 PM
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The Colts are an addition! For sure.

Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: mr_340] #715433
06/28/10 08:56 AM
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Who had the Colt that was on the cover of Hot Rod or Car Craft circa 1971?

Jim Roath -- Reed in Neb.

Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: RaceCarRegistry] #715434
12/04/10 06:13 PM
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a picture I have not seen before - sent to me, PRO Race 1974 - NY National Raceway

anyone got any more ??

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6337782-PRO492.jpg (587 downloads)
Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: StewartP] #715435
12/04/10 06:19 PM
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Hay SP ....who is that with Ted ?

BTW ....what is the water-temp out in the Gulf ?

Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: IcorkSOAK] #715436
12/04/10 07:52 PM
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Ted ? That is Jim Ward in the red shirt --- Doc, you finally in Florida ?

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http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/GM/853.html

between 63 and 69 -

Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: StewartP] #715437
12/04/10 09:26 PM
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Stewart, the red Rod Shop Colt and the Desantis/Crider Colt tried the small blocks, were these early W-2 heads or were they using the Trans Am heads?

The Rod Shop Colt wagon with the Westlake small block was neat too.

Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: LSP] #715438
12/04/10 10:31 PM
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That I do not know, maybe Koffel can answer that question - I am a bigot - if the spark plug is not in the middle of the valve cover -- well, best left unsaid :-)

Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: StewartP] #715439
05/12/11 09:57 PM
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Gotta love it! I'd say that Chevelle is about to have something handed to it...a spankin!



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Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: LSP] #715440
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Hey, I can answer that! The Rod Shop Colt was used in 1974, with Jim Thompson driving, to test the prototype W2 heads. This program was parallel to Don Carlton's testing in the "yellow" car. The Colt ran a best of 9.12, as I recall, at about 100 lbs under the NHRA Pro Stock weight. There was alot more potential in the heads, but they were breaking blocks as the HP went up. The results of the Carlton and Rod Shop testing is what got Chrysler (slowly) started on developing the 340 race block which finally showed up about the time Glidden moved over to Mopar and ran the successful Arrow.

As for Desantis and Crider, they were trying to make a go of it with T/A type heads. As I recall, they only ran the car for a partial year, breaking alot of parts and finally selling the car to Roy Hill who put a Hemi in and did real well in IHRA Pro Stock in 1976 with it. He also ran his Duster in NHRA Pro Stock that same year.

Hope that helps!

Mark

Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: StewartP] #715441
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The red Rod Shop Colt was only a small block in 1974 and *maybe* early 1975 until the W2 small block testing was stopped 'til a better engine block could be made (took 3+ years!). Then, it was converted to a Hemi with Gene Dunlop (and occasionally Riffle) driving as a B/A. When Dunlop damaged it in 1976, the Rod Shop bought the black Colt from Roger Denney to meet their match race obligations and Riffle turned in his Dart Sport to drive this Colt. The red Colt was also repaired and for a short time the Rod Shop was running 2 in-house program Colts (Riffle/black and Dunlop/red) and a third in Carlton's outside (gold car) program.

Hope that helps.

BTW, I sold the Colt back to the Rod Shop that your friend later bought and raced. Like David Sox said earlier, the Hardy-build Colts were very nice handling.

Mark

Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: mgpanos] #715442
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I thought Hill had a Plymouth Arrow? I don't remember any Colt he had. I sort of remember an article in HR or Carmaro Craft about some W2 prototype heads that were welded up. Probably Mullins developed but I don't remember much about the article.


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Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: mr_340] #715443
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I thought Hill had a Plymouth Arrow? I don't remember any Colt he had. I sort of remember an article in HR or Carmaro Craft about some W2 prototype heads that were welded up. Probably Mullins developed but I don't remember much about the article.




I posted a photo Roy Hill's Colt earlier but you must have missed it, here it is again.



Also curious about any updates on any other small block & Hemi Colt's that other people are currently working on.


Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: Race&Resto] #715444
12/26/11 05:14 PM
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Here are a couple I found in my pictures from Columbus at the Springnationals 1974.


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Re: Hemi Colts again [Re: bfury] #715445
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And another

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