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Re: Is Shell Rotella the oil of choice...??
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05/20/10 06:38 PM
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...for a flat tappet these days?? Got a new cam from Bullet with a moderate bee-hive spring but don't want to take any chances.
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DOUBLE CHECK LIFTER ROTATION.ARE THEYB TURNING FREE ENOUGH? CHECK LIFTER CROWNS FOR BEING ON CENTER
99% of flat tappet failures come from the above causes
then break it in with soft springs and don't rely on a secret blend of oil to do it.
Everytime I see one of these my oil is better than your oil posts I ask one simple question.
when have any of you ever seen an engine failure that was directly attributed to the brand of oil being used ?
I'll answer for you none , zero ,nada.
The failures always shows up as part breakage,assemble mistakes,mismatched parts,driver errors.
Clean fresh oil and proper assembly is the secret to longevity.
 
Clean it, if it's Dirty. Oil it, if it Squeaks.
But: Don't fix it, if it Works!
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Re: Is Shell Rotella the oil of choice...??
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05/20/10 07:04 PM
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THANK YOU DON YOU GET IT 
Kind of like blaming 'inferior parts' for shody workmanship.  Lets pass the buck and find a scapegoat.
like I said show me the failure from the oil brand....please
then I'll join the pack. Just like with ATF fluids I use Ford type which is recommended by most tranny builders. The cheapest one on the shelf does as much as all the hi dollar fancy brands . keep it fresh and clean is all you need.
I use what ever is cheap or on sale too.
heck I even use Walmart or Mills FleetFarm brand oil.
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Re: Is Shell Rotella the oil of choice...??
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05/20/10 08:21 PM
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...go to Joe Gibbs web site
they make some interesting points.
I have also called Shell Canada Tech. in Alberta and they stand by their latest Rotella Formulation and it's use for flat tappets at about 1200 ppm zinc
"there's a Dart with a 340 in it...they've got some muscle here tonight!"
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Re: Is Shell Rotella the oil of choice...??
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05/20/10 10:02 PM
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then break it in with soft springs
WHERE did this come from ?
From what I have read .... you need firm contact with the cam-lobes. If the springs are weak .. the lifter might not rotate ....and will just slip-and-slide over the lobe.
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Re: Is Shell Rotella the oil of choice...??
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05/20/10 10:46 PM
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WHERE did this come from ?
huh? that's nothing new some people take the inner springs out. iirc the nascar type guys may even use low ratio rockers to break in cams. even with the low loading the lifters should rotate being the cam is ground with a taper and the lifter face is ground convex
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Re: Is Shell Rotella the oil of choice...??
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Firm consistant contact can still be had with low pressure springs. This has been a recommendation for may many years. Where have you been????
OK ...... soft = low pressure ?? ... we are looking at how that situation is defined. And WHERE I read about "wrong"(2 lite-of) valve-springs was on the Hughes site. And JUST LIKE going over-board on a carb, cam, converter and/or rear tire .... the wrong valve springs ...be they too light or tooo heavy ...can cost horsepower.
WHERE have I been ? .... enjoying semi-retirement, traveling, etc .....and not "in" the HP car business/hobby like I have been in the past.
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Re: Is Shell Rotella the oil of choice...??
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Schaeffer oil is a great oil that still has some of the old good stuff in it.... they have been around alot longer than 90% of any of the other oil companies...so that says a bunch in today's market. http://www.schaefferoil.com/
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Re: Is Shell Rotella the oil of choice...??
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There is a link in this thread to a very detailed explanation of the function of zinc & phosphorus in motor oils: Zinc Bill O. has posted results from a lab analysis of Brad Penn oil he had done: oil analysis
dstryr, since 1986.
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in my trucks. I switched back to black bear and have not had a fraction of the problems I had before. If anything we are keeping the trucks alot longer in this econmoy because I do want to take on any extra payment books. But hey that is my 
. As many people on this board will be as many different answer you will get.
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