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Re: AMCR -70 RR Vert - $18k MAX labor Rolling Chassis D
[Re: THESHAKERPROJECT]
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01/10/11 10:15 PM
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BTW, 15K for all that work is a GREAT deal!! Shops in this area woud have charged TWICE that amount. Nice work. 
Shops in my area (SOCAL) wanted 3-4 times this amount. Perhaps the <Jay Leno/no expense spared> effect?
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Re: AMCR -70 RR Vert - $18k MAX labor Rolling Chassis D
[Re: anlauto]
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01/11/11 11:56 AM
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Yes..I agree with Mike....Before you pull all your hair out..remove the door seals 100% and see then how the doors close.
The best aftermarket seals I've found are Metro SuperSoft They come packaged on purple cardboard. 
I can vouch for this, the doors on the cuda I'm working on you have to slam the doors harder than I'm confortable with to get them to close. then the roof rail seals to me seem to be too hard as well and push the 1/4 glass out when it reaches the top of the travel. It's all Sofseal stuff.
I plan to look into the metro stuff next week
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Re: AMCR -70 RR Vert - $18k MAX labor Rolling Chassis D
[Re: dan9]
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01/11/11 02:39 PM
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Just curious if you had a nos left quarter panel then why splice it? Also when you find major damage to the right quarter then why grind the whole panel when it is going to be replaced? Thanks
Good questions,
- If you notice they way we spliced the QP, it left all factory welds in place. Since we butt welded everywhere and then ground them down, the replacement is seamless. The only evidence, without stripping the paint off, is the photo we posted.
- When the car came in, it was not apparent that the damage on that side was quite so major. Since the customer was 3,000 miles away, we stripped the whole panel and took a bunch of pictures of it for emailing. Then we let the customer decide if he wanted us to repair it or replace it. The only change in cost to him was the part and materials.
Thanks for asking.
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Re: AMCR -70 RR Vert - $18k MAX labor Rolling Chassis D
[Re: gtx6970]
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01/11/11 04:23 PM
01/11/11 04:23 PM
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then the roof rail seals to me seem to be too hard as well and push the 1/4 glass out when it reaches the top of the travel. It's all Sofseal stuff.
I plan to look into the metro stuff next week
I've already talked to Metro about this. They don't carry a roof rail kit for the convertibles, only a long seal that can be trimmed as needed. Their door seal is listed for hardtop, but I assume can be used for conv as well. I also have the Soffseal kit.
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Re: AMCR -70 RR Vert - $18k MAX labor Rolling Chassis D
[Re: 70runner]
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01/11/11 07:09 PM
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then the roof rail seals to me seem to be too hard as well and push the 1/4 glass out when it reaches the top of the travel. It's all Sofseal stuff.
I plan to look into the metro stuff next week
I've already talked to Metro about this. They don't carry a roof rail kit for the convertibles, only a long seal that can be trimmed as needed. Their door seal is listed for hardtop, but I assume can be used for conv as well. I also have the Soffseal kit.
I believe Steele Rubber makes that kit also, I have had great luck with them in the past: better than I have had with Soffseal.
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Re: AMCR -70 RR Vert - $18k MAX labor Rolling Chassis D
[Re: 70runner]
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01/12/11 11:21 PM
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Hood 440 callout (thx to moparts member "okie" for an orig callout backup plate). NOS hood t/s assemblies.
Last edited by 70runner; 01/12/11 11:23 PM.
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Re: AMCR -70 RR Vert - $18k MAX labor Rolling Chassis D
[Re: dan9]
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01/21/11 11:38 AM
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Just curious if you had a nos left quarter panel then why splice it? Also when you find major damage to the right quarter then why grind the whole panel when it is going to be replaced? Thanks
I would "assume" the NOS replacement was a hardtop piece, thus you would have to graft it in place,....if it WAS a NOS vert qtr, and it was spliced like that, then that was sad indeed?
Then again I didn't care for the surgery done in that graft, I would have made every effort to rework the hardtop skin (if that's what was used) to conform to the original vert's form, to avoid/minimize butt welding/grafting,....the buttweld (vertical) along the door jamb is not "proper" in my opinion 
Nice job overall though,... you couldn't get that much work done for $15K or less out this way
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Re: AMCR -70 RR Vert - $18k MAX labor Rolling Chassis D
[Re: DAYCLONA]
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01/21/11 03:09 PM
01/21/11 03:09 PM
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Roswell, GA - near Atlanta
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Just curious if you had a nos left quarter panel then why splice it? Also when you find major damage to the right quarter then why grind the whole panel when it is going to be replaced? Thanks
I would "assume" the NOS replacement was a hardtop piece, thus you would have to graft it in place,....if it WAS a NOS vert qtr, and it was spliced like that, then that was sad indeed?
Then again I didn't care for the surgery done in that graft, I would have made every effort to rework the hardtop skin (if that's what was used) to conform to the original vert's form, to avoid/minimize butt welding/grafting,....the buttweld (vertical) along the door jamb is not "proper" in my opinion
Nice job overall though,... you couldn't get that much work done for $15K or less out this way
The reason for the verticle butt weld and all butt welds the way we do them is simple. They leave the factory welds in place. When we are done, if we hadn't posted the photos here, it is not possible to tell that the work was ever done. It leaves the car looking like 100% original metal from the factory.
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Re: AMCR -70 RR Vert - $18k MAX labor Rolling Chassis D
[Re: cloneguy]
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01/21/11 06:15 PM
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The reason for the verticle butt weld and all butt welds the way we do them is simple. They leave the factory welds in place. When we are done, if we hadn't posted the photos here, it is not possible to tell that the work was ever done. It leaves the car looking like 100% original metal from the factory.
So Tim your saying you cut up a factory NOS vert panel to butt weld it to save the "factory" welds?,....there are plenty of techniques and equipment avaliable to "reproduce" a factory type weld, not "rocket science",....I feel you've lost some of the structual integrity of the car, esp a vert, by welding the qtr as you did, yeah, yeah you never had one break a weld,....but how about 2,5,10 years down the road?,...when/if it fractures? and starts looking like hell?,...I don't know about you, but when I finish a car, I don't want to revisit it again down the road to rebuild it again
Mike
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