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Re: 950 HP on E85 - idle taking off [Re: ajcasini] #690397
05/07/10 01:58 PM
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I picked up the air bleeds today same as Jim was using so we'll see if they help. I'm going to clean it out really well too because like I said we did drywall the garage and the car was covered in drywall dust. The engine was covered but you never know. I swapped to E85 last fall and didn't have the troubles then.

I keep an EGT in the car and kept an eye on the temp when dialing in the E85 - the temps were lower than gas so it should be getting enough juice. The 950 is probably a little big for my combo so that's probably why the boosters are ok.


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Re: 950 HP on E85 - idle taking off [Re: ajcasini] #690398
05/07/10 04:25 PM
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Mr P I found the link you were talking about I think but its for 4500 dominator style boosters which are easy to change. I couldnt find anything on the 4150 carbs like he has. With the 4150's from my experience you need a special tool to swedge the boosters in place. if you have something for the 4150 please post it.

As far as the idle I would look at timing and possible throttle plate sticking open. I found a strange thing when I replaced the 4 hole gasket on my car. Used a Summit brand gasket and the gasket was actually hanging up the secondary throttle blades.

I would look for a vacuum leak around the intake as well. I have had that issue before.

As far as running better than gas you bet it will. You should be .1 or more faster than on gas. I picked up .3 and 4 MPH over 110 race gas on a 10.5 - 1 440.

I would change the air bleeds and set them up somewhere around 26-28 on the High Speed Bleed and 62 on the Idle Air bleed.

I changed the boosters in mine as I feared it would lean out too much on the top end with the smaller boosters.




can you post a link thanks

Re: 950 HP on E85 - idle taking off [Re: 69dart] #690399
05/08/10 11:19 AM
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I know you drilled your own jets but what jets would your .129 hole be equal to - 90-something?
[/quote .129 hole size is close to holley #100 jets. Don

Re: 950 HP on E85 - idle taking off [Re: cudadon] #690400
05/09/10 07:45 PM
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After this weekend I'm pretty sure I have an intake leak. I usually use the paper gaskets on each side but I tried just the belly pan and RTV over the winter. So I'm going reseal the intake and give another try.

I'm still going to change the air bleeds.


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Re: 950 HP on E85 - idle taking off [Re: 69dart] #690401
05/15/10 08:47 PM
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After a couple days of tuning it seems to be running much better. The idle problem has cleared up. Changing the air bleeds as suggested made a huge difference. The car drives around with better manners and pulls much better on the big end. I played with the timing backing it down to 33-34 from 36 and it killed a 1/10th. So I tried advancing the timing to 37-38 and it liked that alot. In today's heat the car ran a new season's best of 6.60 in the 1/8th at over 103. I haven't been able to run it out the back door because I keep tuning during elimations but that should be 10.44ish. Thats a decent gain from the 10.60's when I started.

Anyway no more tuning for now because tomorrow is the big race. Hopefully I can go some rounds when it matters!


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Re: 950 HP on E85 - idle taking off [Re: 69dart] #690402
05/15/10 08:54 PM
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Anyway no more tuning for now because tomorrow is the big race. Hopefully I can go some rounds when it matters!




Amen. Now sharpen up that shoe polish bottle, and go mow em' down.

Re: 950 HP on E85 - idle taking off [Re: 69dart] #690403
05/16/10 12:45 PM
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I picked up the air bleeds today same as Jim was using so we'll see if they help.


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The idle problem has cleared up. Changing the air bleeds as suggested made a huge difference. The car drives around with better manners and pulls much better on the big end.


So that seems better. I am looking forward to hearing the track results.

Getting enough fuel without changing the booster might be tough, but I ran mine that way all year (2008). E85 is pretty forgiving on A/F (within reason). I had Mark Sullens put larger flowing boosters in mine, but I haven't used the carb since the rebuild because I put the Ron's injection on.


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