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If it's only for display purposes and not for trying to scam someone into believing it's an original BCS does it have to be perfect?

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Once again, why not use that same logic with the other factors of these cars? Why do most people complain when the Good Mark fenders don't fit "perfect"? Why do people scrutinize and criticize our other decals and paper products if they don't want them to appear original or look "perfect"? Should we assume that anyone who restores a car to look like new or "perfect" is actually trying to scam someone into thinking that it is original? Who gets to make the new rules for what can look authentic and what should look altered?

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The thing about a BCS is that it's used to correctly restore a car to the way it left the factory

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I can assure you Rich that I have seen plenty of "restored" vehicles (with original Build-sheets) that looked NOTHING like a correct, original factory car!

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Now....can anybody that feels this way, please explain the warped logic for requiring a piece of original paperwork that represents their "fake" car but the opposite scenario is NOT ALLOWED?!

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Good point. Probably the same reason why it is ok for young girls to date older guys but wrong for young guys to date older women I think it is this way because this topic, and the anal restoration guys, puts the BCS on a pedestial rather than focus on why that sheet was printed in the first place. To give life to the cars we own and love now.

Think of it this way, whats more fun? A broadcast sheet with no car, or no broadcast sheet with a car. If you want the first option allow me to think your

Everyone is too worried that a piece of paper will devalue our cars to nothing more than a honda civic. In all reality, you can tell what is original on the car by simply looking at the VIN, stampings on the engine, fender tag, part numbers, etc. These things are what make the broadcast sheet anyway.

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I have a question...Why would anyone ever want a perfect undetectable reproduction broadcast sheet?

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I don't know Eric! I guess I should have asked the 40+ people who have called me/emailed me these past couple of days, who were literally begging for one!

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I have a question...Why would anyone ever want a perfect undetectable reproduction broadcast sheet?

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I don't know Eric! I guess I should have asked the 40+ people who have called me/emailed me these past couple of days, who were literally begging for one!

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The thing about a BCS is that it's used to correctly restore a car to the way it left the factory

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I can assure you Rich that I have seen plenty of "restored" vehicles (with original Build-sheets) that looked NOTHING like a correct, original factory car!

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Dave, I know that there are plenty of improperly restored cars out there.
As in over-restored, poorly restored.
What some people call a restoration is more of a rattle can special (rattle can Rembrandt specials as we call them).

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Yes, you should. A broadcast sheet is NOT a reproduction part, it's a document that either you have or you don't. The ONLY reason anybody would want a undetectable reproduction broadcast sheet is to deceive.

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I have a question...Why would anyone ever want a perfect undetectable reproduction broadcast sheet?

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No one said that they did, if they did I missed that post. I just want one to "look" somewhat like the original one. I will never sell the car or anything of that nature, but would be nice to have one that doesn't smell like mouse piss and is in multiple pieces and dust. That way I can actually "touch" the piece of paper without making chrysler fairy dust.

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That is fine. Make one that is similar to a broadcast sheet that is different than an original. But there are people making (or have made) undetectable reproduction broadcast sheets. There is NO need for those.

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Yes, you should. A broadcast sheet is NOT a reproduction part, it's a document that either you have or you don't. The ONLY reason anybody would want a undetectable reproduction broadcast sheet is to deceive.

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Not everyone is into this hobby to deceive. As stated, you cannot make a repro look or smell as old as the car. You cannot reproduced the 20-40 year old rusty spring marks on the paper.

Main reason I would want one is because down here in south texas, we only have a "mopar" class and thats it at these shows while the chevys and fords get every class they want. Any edge a mopar can get in a show, even if its a repro BCS sheet, is helpful. Your definately not gonna pass off a repro sheet at the Mopar Nats anyway.

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Hi Pat,
I have been throwing out these thoughts in an attempt to see if anyone would actually hit the nail on the head. It isn't up to any one person as to what should or should not be done! It is Chrysler who is in charge of their company and what they choose to do. If not for the majority/minority (which ever) I would have offered these a long time ago. As much as guys like Rhinodart, Pacnorthcuda, etc..... can't stand me, I owe them the same respect in this hobby as those who appreciate what we do and support our cause! We don't want to alienate ANYONE in this hobby and it is not our intent to hurt the value of these vehicles in anyway. I simply wanted to open the eyes of people who might be victim to the same bug that I was bit by when I arrived on the scene in 2002. Real paperwork does NOT guarantee a real car! Yes it is important but only because WE as a hobby have made it that way. It in no way ensures (absolute) reality for anything except the "old" paper it is printed on!

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for the most part Dave! The other reality is the sheet is evidence that the car really did exist.

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for the most part Dave! The other reality is the sheet is evidence that the car really did exist.

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Thanks Eric! Hopefully people won't start building "fake" cars to represent real paperwork! (I know that comment was naive. It has already been happening for quite some time now. Oh well....you can't win for losing!)

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for the most part Dave! The other reality is the sheet is evidence that the car really did exist.

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Thanks Eric! Hopefully people won't start building "fake" cars to represent real paperwork! (I know that comment was naive. It has already been happening for quite some time now. Oh well....you can't win for losing!)

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That's the problem that come into play when people are in it simply to deceive and make $$$$.

I know of a Hemi Charger body that a buddy has that the same VIN number was authenticated by a "specialist" on another Charger that the "specialist" documented.
The "specialist" doesn't want to talk about the VIN and would like to see the original (very rough) body go away now.

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Hi Pat,
I have been throwing out these thoughts in an attempt to see if anyone would actually hit the nail on the head. It isn't up to any one person as to what should or should not be done! It is Chrysler who is in charge of their company and what they choose to do. If not for the majority/minority (which ever) I would have offered these a long time ago. As much as guys like Rhinodart, Pacnorthcuda, etc..... can't stand me, I owe them the same respect in this hobby as those who appreciate what we do and support our cause! We don't want to alienate ANYONE in this hobby and it is not our intent to hurt the value of these vehicles in anyway. I simply wanted to open the eyes of people who might be victim to the same bug that I was bit by when I arrived on the scene in 2002. Real paperwork does NOT guarantee a real car! Yes it is important but only because WE as a hobby have made it that way. It in no way ensures (absolute) reality for anything except the "old" paper it is printed on!

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Hold on there, Davey! I appreciate what you do for the hobby in general, we just happen to be polar opposites on this subject, I certainly don't "hate" you! I can follow your flawed logic on this subject by reading your point-by-point diatribes as these threads go along, that is enough for me to tell that you have a strong opinion that some share it and some don't. When you and "Chrysler" finally decide to make these bogus sheets available (mark my word it will happen if you do it or someone else does) then we and other Mopar boards will rehash this nonsence all over again and it will only lead to more discourse that this hobby does not need...